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I'm Voting..

Labor!
23
37%
Liberal
20
32%
Greens!
3
5%
Independent!!11
4
6%
Some random party with a silly name or entertaining policy:)
8
13%
Fuck voting..
5
8%
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... or-parties
On Thursday the Australian tax office released fresh tax data that showed 36% of the 2,043 largest public companies and multinational entities in Australia paid no tax in 2015-16.

An analysis by the Greens cross-referencing the data with Australian Electoral Commission disclosures of donations in that year found that 13 companies that paid no tax despite total incomes of $33bn also donated $1.7m to the major parties.

The largest of these was Pratt Holdings Pty Ltd, which donated $850,000 and paid no tax on a total income of $2.7bn.
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ysu wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... or-parties
On Thursday the Australian tax office released fresh tax data that showed 36% of the 2,043 largest public companies and multinational entities in Australia paid no tax in 2015-16.

An analysis by the Greens cross-referencing the data with Australian Electoral Commission disclosures of donations in that year found that 13 companies that paid no tax despite total incomes of $33bn also donated $1.7m to the major parties.

The largest of these was Pratt Holdings Pty Ltd, which donated $850,000 and paid no tax on a total income of $2.7bn.
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Both ends should be crushed Norbs. It will never be sorted with the lily-livered maggots we have for Politicians.
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Harry potter and the creaky cabinet - on ABC. :)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-17/h ... et/9266266
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Oops...have you guys seen the "leaked cabinet files"? I'm a bit speechless.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-31/c ... ns/9168442
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Pretty damned funny.
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Every time I hear something about leaks or classified documents I think Blackadder....

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So if I was Labor at this point, I would gagged Bill and lock him in his house with no contact to the outside world for 3 months and let Malcolm and Barnaby have the stage. Cause Barnaby is going to fuck everything he can touch! :woohoo:
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The fucking jaw dropping hypocrisy of the politicians is unbelievable.

The Beetrooter has to go. This government needs to get a fucking pasting at the next election. Sadly, the other side arent much better.
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They fail to see the problem. No one really gives a shit that Barnaby shagged an employee, happens all the time. The issue is the positions she got afterwards reeks of jobs for mates.
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I'm starting to see a pattern here...voting in a liberal is akin to bending over to big corporations, it seems.
So why people still vote for these guys? Is it only the last few (10-15) years this has gone to such extremes?
I've not studied political history of Australia, so help me out here, please.

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Always been that way as far as i know.

Liberals are right wing which leans to capitalism. Putting businesses first with the view that what's good for a company is good for its employees. As a result they've always been in the pocket of mining, Murdoch etc.

Labor are left wing which leans towards socialism. Putting workers first to protect against exploitation, protection of lower income groups, tying it to trade unions etc.

Trouble is, any party/leader can be incompetent, disappear up their own ass or become corrupt if they're in power too long. So you get swings from side to side based on other factors and that sometimes fucks up long term initiatives, like a push to solar getting fucked up by people who try to sell the lie of "clean coal" or the nbn turning into a cluster fuck.
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I understand the premise of left/right. However, it looks to me the premise is bs. They don't do what they preach. And I'm unable to comprehend, that when they do it to such an extreme, and in such an obvious manner, why does half of Australia's voting populace still support them? Shouldn't they have turned away long ago, well and truly?

Me being a small business owner I'd lean - at least to some extent - towards a political party that helps me, as a business. I.e. on paper the libs.
However, it seems they only pay lip service to capitalism - or at least to the 'good' kind - they support the big corp only. They even help building monopolies. So they only support the 'bad' kind of capitalism, which is more akin to a totalitarian structure, in my opinion.
This whole thing is totally against my interests. And I'm a business owner, not an employee.

So they don't help the employed, they don't help the SME, they feed the big corp only, causing strife and hardship to a good chunk. Often actively causing huge expenses to the public (NBN, mining, fucked up sales of public assets...)
Based on this, their support base should be in the ten-thousands at best.

And yet, half of Australia supports this. How?!?
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Well, let's face it, how much money can a business like yours 'donate' to their cause?

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pab wrote:Well, let's face it, how much money can a business like yours 'donate' to their cause?

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I agree, and that's why I don't support them - and that's why I don't understand why anybody - except a few - does.

( Although, apparently you can buy the ear of some MP's very cheap, a few thousand $$ dinner will do I read.)
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The way the parties use to be was different to now. Both were more to the left in the past. The Liberals under Malcolm Fraser in the 1970's use to occupy ground somewhere in between the current parties. They were for the top end of town where Labor were blue collar and there were a lot of industry/manufacturing, labouring ect... where their support base was. Now days it seems both of the struggle to fit into the current climate. That blue collar support base has gone with manufacturing moving oversea's and the conservatives are acting like their parents used lead paint or something in their bedrooms as children. Both are failing to adapt it seems.
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In a quiet moment last night I was wondering on population growth and how that inevitably leads to less representation on a per-capita basis also knocks onto the evolution of the 'political class' structure that we see everywhere. The discussion points above did pop up along the way.
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Honestly, the politicians really do live in a bubble. Joyce is vouching for Dutton's integrity!

http://www.standard.net.au/story/530821 ... oyce/?cs=7

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Jesus, the fucking fascist racist potato could be head of the government.
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I was going to say it's 29 and counting for Malcolm. But the last thing we need is that fuckstick Dutton in charge. Fuck we'll see the white Australia policy dusted off :yikes:
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Ugh, doesn't it look like we're tumbling towards a police state?
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... ocid=ientp
Actually; it's just Dutton's wish we were, hopefully.
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Hey it's all good, they're just trying to keep us all safe ;)
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