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Re: Fallout 4

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mm... Not sure it sounds like my bag. I'm never keen on having to muck about with trading points for skills and RPG things like that.
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Then leave it :) It's certainly not everyone's piece of cake.

Dex, you shouldn't feel bad either. I have grown a bit bored with wandering around one time, too (I think it was in New Vegas) - I've just put the game down for a while. When I came back, I concentrated on the main story, as I was really interested in it.
You can actually play it just going where the game leads you - the main mission line - and do side-stuff if you're keen, later. Or with another type of build. An evil one. We're not all the same :) I've read about people who are gathering eg child toys in one room. Organising it on the shelves. Need I go on? ;)

Although in 3 there was no real "alternative" character build, only the fighting style differed, really...In this one, it seems you have to chose, and there are good looking choices, too. Eg you can probably create a fairly successful "lucky idiot" character, it seems; there are really powerful shit under the luck branch :D
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Had a quick go after the marathon download finished. Story line looks promising and after going for a strength based build in 3 and Vegas I'll try a different approach with luck, perception and charisma.
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I put in a couple of hours last night, so far I'm not feeling it, not sure why that is the case, I do remember it took me a while to get into 3 and New Vegas as well so hopefully it's just a matter of getting familiar with things again, it sure is pretty, I'll give it that much.

Also thinking I'll start from scratch since I didn't give a lot of thought to my specials when getting started, and now after reading a bit more there seems to be a trend in guides saying there's more of a need to specialise this time around, do I plough on or start over?
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I'm not deep enough to answer that question :)
But...there are no level caps, so you can in fact just plough on and specialize as you go.

Some really good tips in this list. No spoilers and not cheats, just handy stuff to know.
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Thanks for the link ysu, some good info in that, might just plough on through with my specials then given no level cap.
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It's getting hammered on Metacritic and Steam for user reviews. I'm loving it, so I don't care, but so many butt hurt people.....
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I've lost keyboard input 3 times. First time it happened I was able to alt-tab, then come back in and save, but each time after that I couldn't save and had to redo a bunch of stuff. Seems to happen when it does an auto-save. First was exiting the vault, after that it was with the terminal in red rocket. I still have mouse input and can reload or enter vats but no other keys work. WTF.

Twice the gun and pip-boy became invisible and I had to completely exit the game to get it back. Happened when trying to reload the laser rifle you get before entering the museum.

Visually I think it looks ok, runs smoothly (was stuttery until I disabled depth of field). I don't seem to have a frame rate cap though so I'll have to try to get one working. It's a bit weird having your movement speed vary with frame rate. Overall not a great first impression for me, having to restart the game 5 times in < 2 hours. Compelling enough to press on though.
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I haven't had 1 issue yet. No bugs, nothing. I've got about 9 hours on it so far, very much enjoying it. Haven't gotten into the building aspect yet as I'm gathering resources before continuing on with the minute men quests.

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Same here San, played for another 3 hours last night, the game has been rock solid for me, (i7 2600k/16GB mem/GTX 770 4GB), I even enjoyed myself last night even though I've been getting my arse handed to me pretty regularly. I guess I'm past the initial overwhelmed feeling I seem to get when I start a Fallout game.

I'm finding my biggest problem is obtaining ammo, I thought I had heaps, until I got into my first real fire fight at Corvega Assembly Plant, pretty much burned through everything I had and then had to go stealth/melee to finish it, building up ammo all over again. I'm also finding myself sleeping every night, the ghouls just fark me up, my old man reflexes can't keep up with those bastards. :rofl:
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Yeah ammo is a bit of an issue. The only one I can find in abundance is the .38 - which gives you fairly low damage. Early on I did not carry a .38 so I run out of ammo completely in the middle of a firefight... :/

RE bugs; my biggest issue currently is with building, it can be very frustrating.
I've placed a lot of veggies for them, and now I can't pick them up or anything; the targeting of those items gone haywire. I've been able to luckily catch a few of them - by looking somewhere else, circling the plants - but a lot of them I simply can't do anything with, now.

Hopefully they'll fix these things slowly. (or quickly)

Bummer about that, Darren, must be really frustrating :(
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I just can't get into the game. Tried for a couple of hours and it just bores the shit out of me. Guess it isn't for everyone
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My only issue is that it takes over 5 minutes for the game to load from the intro screen - the auto-armour in the garage.
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Cursed wrote:My only issue is that it takes over 5 minutes for the game to load from the intro screen - the auto-armour in the garage.

Not on an SSD?
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Cursed wrote:My only issue is that it takes over 5 minutes for the game to load from the intro screen - the auto-armour in the garage.
Not on an SSD?
Some other problem, maybe memory? Mine is sitting on the secondary drive (SSHD) and still only takes ~10 seconds. (16GB ram)
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No, my games are installed on a 5400RPM 1TB HDD. Still ... 5 minutes.. I've timed it. I saw similar behaviour when I exited, but accidentally chose to go back to the menu instead of desktop. Exit to desktop is instant. I ran the task manager and it showed that disk at 100%, so I wonder if they're doing unnecessary I/O. My PC has 16GB of RAM, so no concern there.
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By default it plays a pretty long intro video before that scene. Maybe it's playing that but you're not seeing it for some reason? You could try using this tool to disable them and see what happens.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/102/

That armor in the garage scene comes up virtually instantly for me, though I'm on SSD's.
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It could be the video, indeed....but that you can skip by hitting enter.
But then, if the disk i/o is indeed at 100%, that means something is wrong.

Maybe running some disk i/o tester could sort it out once and for all. There could be a controller issue of some sorts.

Mind you, even if you disable the startup video, sometimes (quite often) there's another video playing about one of the skills.
Although, again, it's skippable after a few seconds.
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It's not the video. That comes up instantly. The delay comes after hitting "CONTINUE" on the garage scene.

Looking at the task manager performance tab, the "Active time" flatlines to 100%, but read and write speed a pretty occasional and not particularly high. The game starts faster if I've previously played and exited - I'm guessing because some of the disk is cached in memory.

I've noticed no issues on any other games on there.
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Gotta be a game bug. But bugging with what, is the question?
Yeah I thought about it a bit, too, and it can't be outright issue with any component, as it'd then affect all sorts of other games & daily operation.
It can't be the video (as you've confirmed, too) because then it'd be faster coming out of the game.

So it's definitely something to do with that very screen.

Have you asked google-san is there's anyone with a similar problem?
Or maybe if there's a way to jump right into the game, loading the last save game? (although I doubt it - but it'd be a neat work-around)
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Have you tried verifying the game cache Cursed, I recall seeing something similar years ago happen with a game trying to read a corrupt file, probably a long shot but anything is worth a try at this point I guess.
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I'm coming up blank for answers at the moment. I've even sent Bethesda a support ticket.

Interestingly, I started up to the garage screen and went and made a coffee this morning. When I got back to launch (continue) my game, it started almost instantly.
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Try launching the game in windowed mode.
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r8response wrote:Try launching the game in windowed mode.
Just gave it a go. Same as before.
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