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I think they have a decent case but I don't want to set the result changed after the fact.
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I had a really quick look at 1 point early and I thought it said a Vulva was leading? I can only imagine the reception had they won.
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Shaun wrote:
Duke wrote:Umm yes the initial incident my have been level 1 but the redress is what caused the bigger incident. That took 2 cars off track & is why I still believe a PLP was what should have been issued. (without actually reading the V8SC rule book).

Be interesting to see what comes of the protest if there has indeed been an incorrect implementation of the rules.
Just not sure there would be anything specific to cover that situation though.

I do feel for JW as he was trying to do the correct thing & it was really a misjudgment by all parties involved.
Hence McLaughlin getting a post race penalty for his part in it.
While what you say is correct supercars told redbull the 15 sec time penalty was soley for the hit with scotty and nothing to do with the accident after. Therefore redbull have a case he should get the win and a 10 point deduction if they followed the rules they made
That is a good point Shaun, I failed to see that the 15' penalty was given for the initial borked overtake attempt & nothing to do with the botched redress.
In that case JW should have got 2 penalties. :lol:
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McLaughlin docked 25 points for dangerous re-entry http://www.supercars.com/news/champions ... -re-enter/
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I believe the appeal is an effort to have the 15 second penalty reduced to 10 seconds, in line with what Rick Kelly got earlier in the day.
I just dont see them changing the result of the race, they are hugely reluctant to do that, but that 5 less seconds would be worth a fair few points and since Whincup is a championship contender so those points are worth the ten grand plus GST.

Interesting though that the first 4 cars across the line yesterday were 888 built and the first 4 cars in the Championship are all from 888. That is some domination right there.
(Of course the incident in questions took out the two leading non 888 cars so that played a big part in the result.)
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Happy with that.
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If like Shaun says the penalty for this sort of incident is to deduct points from their license and they've just decided on the day to give time penalties then Jamie is the real winner of the race.
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Glad the appeal was dismissed. Nothing against Jamie but it was nice to see a new winner of the 1000 for a change.
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Dismissed on a technicality though. Also glad that the winner on the day (albeit not first across the line) is still the winner, however.
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Sarsippius wrote:If like Shaun says the penalty for this sort of incident is to deduct points from their license and they've just decided on the day to give time penalties then Jamie is the real winner of the race.
This and that the same thing was penalised 10 seconds, earlier...it's just inconsistent and unprofessional. (if true)
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That's just v8supercars officials they have never been consistent
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NeilPearson wrote:That's just v8supercars officials they have never been consistent
At least they're consistent in not being consistent :aussie:
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Sigh not even a v8. I know I'm a bogan but ffs holden that is just shit

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I mine mean for the supercar. Road car is dead to me when that comes out lol. They couldve at least kept the supercar a v8

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Really?! That?! How hard could it be?

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this might not seem like much, but it's probably the biggest team swap we've seen in many years. While the whole thing is a team effort, Lacroix is the genius behind 888's technical advantage. This is a massive get for Penske. It'd be like poaching Adrian Newey away from RBR. It'll be interesting to see if Sam Michaels can help them retain their speed.
Long-time Triple Eight technical director Ludo Lacroix is set to join DJR Team Penske in what shapes as one of the most significant recruitments in the category’s history.
The Queensland-based Holden squad announced this morning that Lacroix will leave Triple Eight following 17 years with the business across the United Kingdom and Australia.
Speedcafe.com has learned that the Frenchman is poised to join DJR Team Penske as it continues to build its emerging Supercars team.
DJRTP’s move to secure Lacroix follows a mixed first two seasons in the category under the team’s American ownership that is yet to yield a race win.
Its technical line-up is currently led by South Australian Nick Hughes, who was appointed to the technical director role by Penske when it bought a majority stake in the team late in 2014.
Penske then recruited race engineers Phil Keed (ex-Brad Jones Racing) and Adam De Borre (ex-Prodrive) over the 2015/16 off-season.
Lacroix’s exact place in the Penske structure remains unclear, with the team declining to comment on the Frenchman’s future when contacted by Speedcafe.com.
The veteran will undoubtedly add significant firepower to the squad which boasts extensive resources in both Australia and the United States.
Having returned to race engineering duties this year on Craig Lowndes’ Holden, speculation is rife that Lacroix will be paired with Penske’s new star driving recruit Scott McLaughlin.
Crucially, Lacroix’s defection from Triple Eight to Penske will come as Supercars teams prepare to design all-new cars for the category’s Gen2 era.
Lacroix was expected to head-up development of Holden’s new car next year ahead of its debut in 2018 as part of Triple Eight’s deal with the manufacturer.
He had previously designed the aero packages for the BF and FG Falcons during Triple Eight’s stint with Ford before also leading the development of the VF Commodore.
Penske is meanwhile yet-to-commit to a direction for Gen2 as it continues to bide its time with Ford.
Lacroix’s move to a rival team is sure to ruffle feathers at Triple Eight and comes little over three years since its team manager Adrian Burgess was poached by the Holden Racing Team.
Triple Eight principal Roland Dane is understood to have known of Lacroix’s intention to leave for some months, with plans to fill the breach already underway.
The team has announced the signing of ex-F1 technical chief Sam Michael in a part-time mentoring role and says that it will “roll out a number of new engineering appointments over the next three months”.
John McGregor is expected to take over Lacroix’s race engineering duties alongside Lowndes having worked closely with the pair throughout this season.
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They should just race the Mustang GT4!
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GT4 as a series would make so much more sense than GT3 if we were to go in that direction - not that I see it happening but GT3 is on the verge of pricing itself out of existence and GT4 will take over.
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They've always tried to have a strong local element so I doubt they'd ever go down that route.
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Would it be too hard to build a Commodore or Altima to GT4 spec?
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No idea. Apart from the few years of Group A it's always been a category specific to Australia. Our guys tend to build their own cars, so the idea of importing ready made cars seems a bit pointless. The only other reason to run an international category is if someone wanted to go and run a car overseas. A couple of teams tried it in the Group A era, which was cool. Watching a Commodore belt around Monza, Spa etc was a bit of a highlight. But even NZ has its own categories. I suppose most countries do.
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