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Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:07 pm
by Duke
LMP1 may have a limited future if this race continues in the same vein.
They are just too complicated, too irrelevant (electric is the future not hybrid) & too expensive even for manufactures, so the small fields will remain. Then add that the LMP2's have a faster terminal speed than the LMP1's now.
Good thing the LMP2 & GTE categories remain close.

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:16 pm
by Jiminee
I still think the #2 Porsche can get back to second overall and then will anybody really care about the Toyotas failing?

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:13 pm
by Dr. Pain
Go Jackie Chan! :banana:

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:17 pm
by Jamo
Scheiße!

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:17 pm
by Duke
OMG what a farce LMP1 is this year.

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:31 pm
by norbs
Jesus some of the passes.

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Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:34 pm
by w00dsy
Well fuck

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:34 pm
by Dr. Pain
Hartley is win it or bin it atm

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:13 pm
by pixelboy
What a race.. Poor Toyota.. They just aren't meant to win this race.

Great battles in GTE.. Le Mans never disappoints.

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:06 pm
by Dr. Pain
The art car. I like it :yes:
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Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:20 pm
by norbs
Aston, booooooooo.

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Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:57 am
by Bails MacKenzie
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Harsh, but fair.

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:37 am
by durbster
Didn't go this year :(

Another great race though. :)

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:13 am
by Exar Kun
I'm in the UK but couldn't swing a pass. Even drove past the Prodrive factory today!

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Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:27 am
by DarrenM
Looks like the Toyota clutch failed because a driver from another team tricked him into leaving the pit early

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/vass ... portunity/
Kobayashi pitted for routine service while under the race’s second safety car period before going into the queue at pit exit, where Vasselon said he was signaled to re-enter the track by a fake marshal, believed to be a driver from another team.

“It’s amazing… Someone came to tell him, and we have it on video: ‘Go go go!’ And normally, our drivers are used to the human action dominate signs,” Vasselon explained.

“From our side, we told him stop because the safety car queue was coming, and it was not possible.

“There has been, as you can imagine, some confusion. Start, stop, start, stop.

“So he had done several restarts with the clutch and the combustion engine… and burned the clutch because he has been thrown into a situation which should not exist.”

Kobayashi ground to a halt moments later and was forced to retire the car at the Porsche Curves.
Post from reddit:
In the german article, it says that the clutch is designed to only engage at at least 80 kph after accelerating with the electric engine, and not while the car is standing with the combustion engine running. Normally, they use the electric motor to accelerate out of the pits and then engage the clutch to use the combustion engine when the car left the pit.

Because the car had to start several times and the combustion engine was already running because he left the pits early, the clutch was engaged more often at speeds it isn't designed for while running the combustion engine and subsequently broke.



Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:58 pm
by Duke
Sounds like sour grapes to me & I can't stop LMAO. It's pretty obvious that's a driver playing a joke & not a marshal but I get why Kobyashi would think it was. :lol

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:02 pm
by pixelboy
Yeah I don't think it was intentional.. I watched that live and thought it very odd but was listening to RLM and they missed it unlike the WEC commentators.

I can't begin to describe how much I love that race. The determination of teams to just finish and the massive emotions it stirs is just incredible. Watching the faces in the Toyota garage as two cars went out in 30 minutes and then watching the LMP2 guys daring to dream as the Porsche tried to catch them... and then the GTE-Pro finish..

:fall: :fall: :fall: :fall: :fall: :fall:

Just awesome.. and it does it every year (well most)..

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:09 pm
by w00dsy
I thought the GTE race was best, watching Jordan Taylor trying to hold off the Aston was great. Pity it went tits up for him. He's a funny fucker on Instagram so hopefully he finds the lighter side of it all.

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:16 pm
by Dr. Pain
Norbs was great value on discord at the end of the race with GT-E pro :D

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:42 pm
by norbs
Dr. Pain wrote:Norbs was great value on discord at the end of the race with GT-E pro :D

That Aston fucked up the Corvette when he launched that bansai move. :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :lol:

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:51 pm
by richo
Go Aston Martin!

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:27 pm
by pixelboy
norbs wrote:That Aston fucked up the Corvette when he launched that bansai move. :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :lol:
The move was late but I don't think he got the damage there... It happened on the next lap when the vette broke too late for the chicane and bounced over the gravel trap..?

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:50 pm
by Dr. Pain
Yeah maybe Pix. But I think it was both some contact and going on through the chicane.

Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:25 am
by StanDaam
DarrenM wrote:Looks like the Toyota clutch failed because a driver from another team tricked him into leaving the pit early
Just showing support... apparently...


Re: 2017 FIA World Endurance Championship

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:27 pm
by r8response
So now that Porsche has confirmed they're leaving the LMP1 at the end of THIS season. That pretty much kills it.

Thankfully the GT cars provide the bulk of the good racing.