Australia is so far behind. (Electric cars)

[smithcorp]

Yes, I think they might be pretty expensive

[norbs]

Yes, I think they might be pretty expensive

I expect so. But, if we can get a fair price on the Cerrato, and dont need to pay for fuel, AND can charge the car during the day and sell back to the grid at peak times, it MIGHT make economic sense.

[smithcorp]

I did a large edit to my previous post - the economic sense argument is a strong one and the future value of used ICE cars is a big unknown

[Brett_S]

Mid 60's to low 70's for the Ioniq 5 apparently - depending on options

The Kia EV6 looks good too, a little smaller than the Ionic 5

Haven't seen anything locally on VW's ID range coming to Australia - the Cupra Born (based on ID3) could be coming here as well.

Next year seems like the starting point for Aus to get a decent range of EV's

[smithcorp]

VW is too damn slow off the mark. They are suggesting e-range not really available until 2023

[durbster]

I got to drive a Tesla Model 3 performance the other day.

Honestly, I've never known anything like it. It accelerates so hard that it hurt my face and because there's no gear change or torque curve, it's utterly relentless. Somebody let me have a go in their 911 a few times which was the fastest car I had driven, but this was nothing at all like that.

It was such an unusual thing to drive. We put it in track mode and I was instructed to just floor it. So I did. The strangest thing is that there's no sense of traction, no hint that it was going to spin the wheels or get out of shape. It just goes.

I have a better appreciation of why they are shaking things up now. It's not just the performance stats alone; it's that it feels totally different. It feels futuristic, almost computer-game like.

If a family hatchback can do that then it seems to me these things aren't going anywhere.

[smithcorp]

Via Overdrive, I've been driving some e-cars. I had a fairly long session with an MG ZS. Quite driveable but small and a real sense of it being an ICE car converted to electric. Opening the bonnet I expected to see luggage space, but it looks exactly like a petrol car's engine compartment. The cheapest option at the moment and has enough range for most peoples' needs.

Nissan Leaf is cramped and similarly a petrol car converted. It still has a massive transmission tunnel in the front and rear! Can barely fit two people across the back. Not so practical for a family.

One thing I do notice is you drive the e-cars differently, less throttle, more awareness of regenerative braking as a desirable outcome (turning regen up to max makes for one-pedal driving which is pretty neat). I think having e-cars in the fleet more widely might help calm drivers down a bit, making for a gentler experience on the road.

Waiting to drive the Ioniq 5, which is more like an e-car designed from the ground up. Performance isn't top of mind for me, I just want room, economical operation and reasonable range, to replace my seven-seater, Suspect we can't wait for 7-seater e-cars to be available and affordable, so likely to go back to a roomy 5-seater.

[Brett_S]

I'm seriously considering ordering one of these: https://www.caradvice.com.au/940388/202 ... alkaround/

been eyeing them for a while. Pricing will be interesting.

Pricing released for the Ionic 5

RWD Version - 71,900 + on roads (2,695)
AWD Version - 75,900 + on roads (2,895)

Both have the 72.6kWh battery

A smaller battery variant (58kWh) will be available later in 2022

I think I saw they are purchased online only and not available from dealers

[nutty]

Wonder how the dealer network is going to take that..

Expensive, I dont know if I would be keen to drop 70k+ on a Kia, especially seeing a Tesla is 63k

[smithcorp]

Yes its interesting. People who put deposits with dealers and thought they were right at the front of the queue are pissed off. Those who did get dealer deposits in get some extra weeks go at ordering from the first 400 cars.

I got an email offering me the online buy, but I can't buy a car without driving it. I'm thinking we might prefer the smaller battery and RWD version mainly to get more practical storage and the range of the smaller battery looks to meet our needs anyway.

We will look at the Kia EV6 as well, as its the same basic platform.

[Brett_S]

We will look at the Kia EV6 as well, as its the same basic platform.

Probably around the same price I suspect. The GT version of the EV6 is delayed for Australia as well. The others should be available to buy early next year.

[nutty]

Review of it came out on carwow... looks impressive as

[smithcorp]

Great car, I'm liking it more and more (no HUD or internal V2L for Australia though). But why do these reviewer kunce feel they have to be quirky? I blame those Top Gear pricks who turned car reviews into things about their quirky personalities.

[Santaria]

Great car, I'm liking it more and more (no HUD or internal V2L for Australia though). But why do these reviewer kunce feel they have to be quirky? I blame those Top Gear pricks who turned car reviews into things about their quirky personalities.

I tend to watch Auto Expert (John Cadogan) and Chasing Cars. No real gimmick and facts.

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[Brett_S]

Great car, I'm liking it more and more (no HUD or internal V2L for Australia though).

Wonder why no HUD and V2L?

V2L is probably the only feature putting this ahead of Tesla

[smithcorp]

Internal V2L would be so useful (laptop charging etc on the go). It will still have exterior V2L. I've lost count of the cars with HUDs in overseas models that don't bring them here dammit.

[KNAPPO]

Converting classic cars to electric vehicles is booming in popularity

[norbs]

Awesome!

[StanDaam]

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[richo]

The inner Luddite in me is screaming heresy!

[w00dsy]

I can handle the Datsun being modified but not the Cortina.

[norbs]

Makes me hard seeing any of them converted! Maybe I should do the Commodore?



https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/202 ... -australia

[Big Kev]

I can understand doing it to some classics where the engine is not part of the character of the car. It's a building business over here. You can buy tesla battery and motor units and install them for 20-30k.

[KNAPPO]

South Australia adopts electric vehicle tax, joining New South Wales and Victoria

[nutty]

So im still very close to pulling the trigger on a Tesla, a good friend of mine was looking to borrow my ute for the weekend so we did a swap to just make sure I was happy.

Was enjoyable I did a drive up through the mountains for a few hours, I had driven a few tesla's over the years, but this was my first big outage through the mountains. Even tho this is the base model the instant power and torque makes it feel soo fast. Like faster than my old 330hp+ s15 by a long way.

The car itself is just cool, like no other way to put it, all the tech is fun and it just makes the whole car experience cool.

But then the problems with an EV showed up. I pulled up and there's a parking spot with a charger. I didn't really need to charge but was keen to see what the experience was like. Screwed around for 10min installing and signing up to some bullshit app then I never got the activation email, it cost $5 to just register and while having lunch spent 30min on live chat trying to get it sorted, dude was asking me if my email was working or down (im with Gmail).. just frustrating, I cant imagine how its going to work for a non tech savvy person.

Like by all accounts the actual Tesla supercharger network is unreal, its quick and payment si easy and handled well, it tells you in the car how many are working and available.. The downside its still scattered very lightly with only two in Brisbane and a handful in QLD in general. So these destination chargers are the only way you can really do any sort of road trips.
Non Tesla’s would be hard, like if you cant rely on all these chargers it would really hurt uptake, combine that with having to manage a bunch of applications and different cable types.