Patch Z, next will be patch AA.

[c.j]

oh... u mad man... i was thinking that I had never heard you around rFactor...


you get a haircut yet?


oh, off topic, my bad!


LFS FTW!

[Sambo]

No, I havent had my hair cut yet...

Have you gotten any taller?

takes two to tango muchachos.

for the love of god please dont kill me or hunt me down using your army techniques

[wobblysauce]

which may or may not include knitting and cross stitch

[VTRacing]

I love reading the small print...

[c.j]

i can sew....

dunno bout the knitting....

[wobblysauce]

i can sew....myself together when iget a gash

dunno bout the knitting....

[Gizmo]

i missed this, the new offices look nice! I'll have to download the update.

[VIPEROSI]

Nice to see the interiors updated.

Were there any other significant changes like physics?

[wobblysauce]

nope

[Duke]

There was only minor physics updates:

Physics :
XF GTR now has a sequential gearbox with ignition cut
Wind speeds and variations are now more moderate / less wild
Small improvements to default setups of XR Turbo / XR GTR / XF GTR
Moved and lowered centre of gravity in GTR cars for better handling
Lowered centre of gravity and updated rear suspension of XRT and RB4


CAR PHYSICS CHANGES :

Big GTR class :
XRR : weight dist back 1.5% - CoG down 13 mm
FZR : weight dist forward 1.5% - CoG down 5 mm
FXR : weight dist back 1.5% - CoG down 8 mm

TBO class :
XRT : weight dist back 1% - CoG down 3 mm
RB4 : CoG down 10 mm
XRT and RB4 also got a small rear suspension update to raise the rear roll centre a little. This should reduce body roll and make them nicer to drive.

Small GTR class :
XFR CoG down by 10 mm and weight distribution back 1.0%
UFR CoG down by 22 mm and weight distribution back 1.5%
XFR also now has a sequential gearbox.

[wobblysauce]

hasn't made any difference for most people its a set that counts

[SamC]

Just play rfactor

Pffffffffffft!!! rFactor is for poofters that have big hair LFS is still the best "feeling" game for racing by far, I couldn't care less what the pretty buttons look like inside and if you can see the drivers toe wiggling little animation, if the handling and realism still feels like shit then I won't play it, always come back to LFS, because it feels the best.....just no one plays it anymore because it doesnt have fluffy dice...that move.

[Exar Kun]

Just play rfactor

Pffffffffffft!!! rFactor is for poofters that have big hair LFS is still the best "feeling" game for racing by far, I couldn't care less what the pretty buttons look like inside and if you can see the drivers toe wiggling little animation, if the handling and realism still feels like shit then I won't play it, always come back to LFS, because it feels the best.....just no one plays it anymore because it doesnt have fluffy dice...that move.

I gave LFS patch Z a go today after running iRacing for a few weeks and I got nothing. I had no idea what the car was doing. It was just like the FFB was weighted but without feel. The sense of speed was lacking too. Besides the lack of rear grip, LFS has never felt too bad to me - like something was a bit wrong but nothing too major (it was pretty much the lack of real cars and tracks and horrible sounds that made me not be able to get into it) but now it feels really bad.

Same goes for the ISI games by the way. Tried some GTR2 and rF and I just can't drive them at all...

[Hz-Lab]

yup same, i jumped on and did some laps on LFS the other night. Lost interest in about 2 to 3 minutes. Feels horrible in comparison to iRacing

[SamC]

Yeah but I like paying for my games once Nah I can't honestly compare iRacing and LFS, because I havent played iRacing, too much fucking around, signing up and waiting for the "invite" then paying for it every month.

[Hz-Lab]

Yeah but I like paying for my games once Nah I can't honestly compare iRacing and LFS, because I havent played iRacing, too much fucking around, signing up and waiting for the "invite" then paying for it every month.

if you pay for it monthly, it will cost you a fortune. paying the yearly option is the cheapest way out. At least try a $20 trial when its public though, I reckon you'll be pleasantly suprised/addicted.

[r8response]

Yeah but I like paying for my games once Nah I can't honestly compare iRacing and LFS, because I havent played iRacing, too much fucking around, signing up and waiting for the "invite" then paying for it every month.

At least try a $20 trial when its public though

I reckon thats going to rub people the wrong way, a Trial doesn't usually involve any payment. Most MMO's these days have some sort of "Free" trial for a month

[NeilPearson]

Yeah but I like paying for my games once Nah I can't honestly compare iRacing and LFS, because I havent played iRacing, too much fucking around, signing up and waiting for the "invite" then paying for it every month.

At least try a $20 trial when its public though

I reckon thats going to rub people the wrong way, a Trial doesn't usually involve any payment. Most MMO's these days have some sort of "Free" trial for a month

to try WoW u still need to buy the software. i take it im buying the software for the iracing trial

[r8response]

to try WoW u still need to buy the software. i take it im buying the software for the iracing trial

Ahh, no you dont

[iMAXIBON]

iRacing = wow?

lol ok, in that case lfs = kingdom of loathing.

[Sambo]

to try WoW u still need to buy the software. i take it im buying the software for the iracing trial

Ahh, no you dont

Yeah sorry neill, you dont

[NeilPearson]

I had to put $2 down to get a disc :P

[Hz-Lab]

ok, worded wrong, Get a $20 monthly MEMBERSHIP and give it a TRY!

[Clippit]

paying the yearly option is the cheapest way out.

i think a nice sturdy brick or a bottle of bleach would be cheapest way out...
still, you don't have to let it get that bad before you act

[wabbit]

I'm surprised LFS Tweak didn't take off, either in a single race or short series