Bathurst 12 Hour Race

[VIPEROSI]

I know it was a evo fest last year, but at least we knew it was a competitive race with a heap of cars in it to win it. If ford and a few other manufacturers had got off there colective asses and entered factory teams it could have been a amazing production car only event.

Even this year the manufacturers could have got involved. Australian motorsport is a joke compared to the rest of the world its so frustrating.

[AstrO]

I know it was a evo fest last year, but at least we knew it was a competitive race with a heap of cars in it to win it. If ford and a few other manufacturers had got off there colective asses and entered factory teams it could have been a amazing production car only event.

Even this year the manufacturers could have got involved. Australian motorsport is a joke compared to the rest of the world its so frustrating.

I was happy with the Evo fest from last year, because we still had a big turnout with a bunch of different cars.

[VIPEROSI]

Im finding its a tough decision on wether to go or not this year. Im just not convinced that by having the gt cars there that it will be a exciting race.

I would love to see the group a and c support races, but even then only 20 cars are turning up and half the cars are driven around by amateurs without the ability or balls to put the car through its paces.

[bengatta]

You could always go to a V8 race instead... I hear they are exciting.

Don't take it out of context, but it is not very fair to be critical of Australian Motorsport, and then not support it when it tries something new... Australian motorsport is nothing becuase the fans do not support it... why would the manufacturers get involved when they think nobody is going to turn up to watch... they will get involved if the people show them why they need to get involved... otherwise it will stay bogun V8 land forever.

You could wait for next year when it finds some legs, if it gets there when nobody supports it at the start...

[VIPEROSI]

Ive been to the last 2 12 hours in a row, and i also attended the sports car festival at eastern creek last year specifically for the gt races so im definately not the type to just bag it without giving it a go.

How many years did the 12 hr have to exist before multiple manufacturers got involved, holden and mitsubishi were the only manufacturers to genuinely support it. If the manufacturers got involved with big name drivers then you would see the fan support.

Imagine if in the previous years you had a factory audi, bmw, mercedes, holden/hsv, FPV, Subaru etc effort. Then you would have the fans streaming through the gates.

Ive just got a bad feeling that instead of seeing a race with so many different cars in it to win it like previous years that we are going to see a small field spread out by huge gaps by the end. And when you have to drive 3 hours or more to get there in the first place it makes the whole thing a difficult proposition.

[pixelboy]

I had the same thoughts viper but I'm going for the same reason I went to the 24hr races.. I want it to succeed..

[bengatta]

Totally understand what you are saying, it is a problem with the sport overall.

it is a circular argument... if fans do not start streaming through the gate, the likes of audi, bmw, mercedes, holden/hsv, FPV, Subaru etc have no confidence that it is worth the effort to spend any money...

they will only spend money on something that is going to see a return, which is standard business practice.

if it costs them a 300K to do the event, they have to sell a shit load of cars to get that back... and that is just not car sales, it is extra car sales... because if they don't spend the money, they do not need to sell the extra cars...

I think that a country with 22million population does pretty well for motorsport, we have a series that employs a large number of people, and has created some household names, produced 2 x World Drivers Champions and has a member currently winning Formula 1 Grand Prix's. Add that to our isolation it is quite impressive...

[Hz-Lab]

This is not the kind of event I'd go to for the racing, I would just go for the atmosphere, nothing better than going for a camp, looking at cars fly by. Come to think of it, I probably would not even watch that much of the Race.

Definitely gonna make the journey next year! If not for blasted weddings I would be there this year!!! grrr

[bengatta]

This is not the kind of event I'd go to for the racing, I would just go for the atmosphere, nothing better than going for a camp, looking at cars fly by. Come to think of it, I probably would not even watch that much of the Race.

Definitely gonna make the journey next year! If not for blasted weddings I would be there this year!!! grrr

It is Bathurst... the races are the period to led the headache subside...

[w00dsy]

i'd love to go to it, but not enough to travel half way across the country to do it. I must admit I do like the field more this year than it being all Fast and Furious cars. I'd rather see Ferrari's, Astons, Audi sportscars etc than some decent 4 door road cars. I find the idea of a BMW 335i winning a bit boring, they are real estate agents cars. Production car racing has it's place, but not as a premier category in a big race like this. Lowndes being there will help attract some interest which will be good. Hopefully next year it'll grow and attract some more popular divers from here and overseas.

[Hz-Lab]

half way across the country? pfft.. it's not even 14/15ths

[bengatta]

some more popular divers from here.

not possible...

[Hz-Lab]

some more popular divers from here.

not possible...

maybe he meant .... MORE (POPULAR DRIVERS) not (MORE POPULAR) DRIVERS

or maybe i don't care

[pixelboy]

Yeah Id have to agree with BCup, we do ok motorsport wise for a population of 22million..

Its a shame the main form of motorsport turned into a Ford v Holden battle during the 80's and 90's but thats what happens when the manufacturers run the show..

I personally think we need to keep em out of production car racing..

Anyway, ill be there, and be good to have an ARSE meet at a pub in town on the Friday night..!

[GT VIRUS]

the main issue for me not going is funds, otherwise i'll be there (in the orange overalls of course :P).

[bengatta]

some more popular divers from here.

not possible...

maybe he meant .... MORE (POPULAR DRIVERS) not (MORE POPULAR) DRIVERS

or maybe i don't care

Ahhh, I see... I thought he was letting fly with the insults to John Bowe and Clips??? He was about to get a Hitler skit...

[Hz-Lab]

that will match his disco stick

[w00dsy]

you know you wanna ride it

[pixelboy]

Ok boys.. almost there.. I'm excited!

Did you guy's see the audi's.. Lowndes team is going to be the team to beat..

I'm driving up on Friday and plan to get the tent sorted and then head into town for a few celebratory beers and dinner... probably at the Oxford.. all arse are welcome!

If you're at the mountain, txt or call me on 0414 654 715

[Clips]

Make sure you swing down past the pits and say gday
I'd let you know what pit bay we are in but i don't know, actually i don't even know what number my car is. So just look for the BMW 130i with Duffy on the window

[pixelboy]

Will do mate, text me your pit bay if you get a chance..

[pixelboy]

First practice @ the mountain:

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Pos Car Driver Competitor/Team Vehicle Cap CL Laps Fastest...Lap Gap

1 7 M.Eddy/C.Lowndes/W.Luff Audi Australia Audi R8 LMS GT3 5200 A 17 15 2:12.4457*
2 12 M.Cini/D.Reynolds/
D.Fiore Hallmarc Porsche GT3 Cup S 3600 A 17 16 2:12.5226 0:00.0769
3 29 T.Quinn/K.Quinn/C.Baird VIP PetFoods Porsche GT3 R 4000 A 18 16 2:14.9140 0:02.4683
4 8 D.O'Young/M.Basseng/
C.Mies Audi Top Service Audi R8 LMS GT3 5200 A 18 4 2:15.3231 0:02.8774
5 37 H.Lester/L.Searle Red Alert Laser Tag Ferrari 430 GT3 4300 A 15 3 2:16.4433 0:03.9976
6 69 J.Koundouris/
T.Koundouris Supabarn Supermarkets Pty Ltd Porsche GT3 Cup S 3600 A 18 15 2:16.9746 0:04.5289
7 23 R.Lago/M.Kingsley/
D.Russell Falcon Property Group Porsche 997 GT3 Cup 3600 B 18 6 2:17.3625 0:04.9168
8 38 D.Wall/G.Crick/B.Mawer Wilson Security - Shannon's Porsche GT3 Cup S 3600 A 15 14 2:17.9873 0:05.5416
9 2 D.Grant/M.Twigg/G.Emery Procon Developments Mosler MT 900 7000 A 20 5 2:20.0155 0:07.5698
10 17 P.Edwards/J.Bowe/
T.Leahy IL BELLO ROSSO Ferrari 430 GT3 4300 A 17 4 2:22.3048 0:09.8591
11 39 P.Tressider/S.Middleton Bakehouse Quarter-McGrath-Midd Porsche 997 GT3 Cup 3600 B 18 5 2:23.9758 0:11.5301
12 44 T.Alford/P.Leemhuis Donut King Racing Nissan GTR R35 3800 C 12 10 2:29.2261 0:16.7804
13 66 Simon McLennan (NZL) Motorsport Services Limited Porsche 996 GT3 Cup 3600 B 18 6 2:31.0670 0:18.6213
14 14 P.Conroy/M.Brame RSH Electrical/DrivingSolution Mitsubishi Evo X RS 2000 D 16 14 2:32.5165 0:20.0708
15 28 P.O'Donnell/M.Hansen/
C.D'Agostin G.W.S Personnel BMW 335i 5000 D 16 13 2:33.5903 0:21.1446
16 3 D.Herridge/A.Kennard Maximum Motorsport Subaru STI 2500 D 16 7 2:34.4619 0:22.0162
17 80 B.Lynton/M.Mackelden Bruce Lynton BMW BMW M3 3200 C 17 7 2:35.0593 0:22.6136
18 43 L.Burges/D.Flack/
N.McFadyen Easts Holiday Parks Mitsubishi Evo IX GS 2000 D 14 9 2:36.2779 0:23.8322
19 67 A.Dippie/S.Thompson/
M.Maddren Motorsport Services Limited Porsche 996 GT3 Cup 3600 B 14 11 2:38.3884 0:25.9427
20 5 J.Gray/S.Johnson Tinkler Motor Sports Ford FG-FPV GT D 11 6 2:39.3239 0:26.8782
21 50 C.Mostert/A.Walsh/
G.McLeod Racer Industries Holden HSV VX-R Turb E 14 12 2:43.9999 0:31.5542
22 27 A.Shephard/G.Duffy/
P.Stubber The Shire Conveyancer BMW 130i 3000 E 16 13 2:45.0626 0:32.6169
23 26 B.Thomlinson/G.Fontaine/
R.Gartner G.W.S Personnel BMW 130i 3000 E 16 4 2:45.7839 0:33.3382
24 62 Richard Meins Eagle 1 Lotus Exige S 1800 C 5 5 2:48.0477 0:35.6020
25 68 D.Roderick/A.Harris Motorsport Services Limited BMW 130i 3000 E 14 3 2:58.4151 0:45.9694

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[AstrO]

Only 25 cars?

[w00dsy]

practice 2

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1     8  D.OYoung/M.Basseng/     
         C.Mies                   Audi Top Service               Audi R8 LMS GT3      5200  A      18    17 2:11.6407* 
2    38  D.Wall/G.Crick           Wilson Security - Shannons     Porsche GT3 Cup S    3600  A      18    18 2:12.3532  0:00.7125
3     7  M.Eddy/C.Lowndes/W.Luff  Audi Australia                 Audi R8 LMS GT3      5200  A      19     3 2:12.6517  0:01.0110
4    69  J.Koundouris/           
         T.Koundouris/S.Owen      Supabarn Supermarkets Pty Ltd  Porsche GT3 Cup S    3600  A      19     9 2:13.1332  0:01.4925
5    29  T.Quinn/K.Quinn/C.Baird  VIP PetFoods                   Porsche GT3 R        4000  A      12     3 2:13.7179  0:02.0772
6    12  M.Cini/D.Reynolds/      
         D.Fiore                  Hallmarc                       Porsche GT3 Cup S    3600  A      18     1 2:14.0684  0:02.4277
7    23  R.Lago/M.Kingsley/      
         D.Russell                Falcon Property Group          Porsche 997 GT3 Cup  3600  B      18    18 2:16.5222  0:04.8815
8    37  H.Lester/L.Searle/      
         A.Simonson               Red Alert Laser Tag            Ferrari 430 GT3      4300  A      15     1 2:16.9219  0:05.2812
9    17  P.Edwards/J.Bowe/       
         T.Leahy                  IL BELLO ROSSO                 Ferrari 430 GT3      4300  A      17     8 2:17.5048  0:05.8641
10    2  D.Grant/M.Twigg          Procon Developments            Mosler MT 900        7000  A      15     8 2:19.5593  0:07.9186
11   39  P.Tressider/S.Smollen/  
         S.Middleton              Bakehouse Quarter-McGrath-Midd Porsche 997 GT3 Cup  3600  B      16     7 2:23.5909  0:11.9502
12   44  T.Alford/P.Leemhuis/    
         M.Rose                   Donut King Racing              Nissan GTR R35       3800  C      14     2 2:27.0614  0:15.4207
13   66  S.O’Donnell/S.McLennan/ 
         M.Konopka                Motorsport Services Limited    Porsche 996 GT3 Cup  3600  B      15    13 2:31.0305  0:19.3898
14   28  P.O'Donnell/M.Hansen/   
         C.D'Agostin              G.W.S Personnel                BMW 335i             5000  D      14     1 2:32.7491  0:21.1084
15   67  A.Dippie/S.Thompson/    
         M.Maddren                Motorsport Services Limited    Porsche 996 GT3 Cup  3600  B      14    13 2:33.2270  0:21.5863
16   14  P.Conroy/A.Robson        RSH Electrical/DrivingSolution Mitsubishi Evo X RS  2000  D      15     8 2:34.9299  0:23.2892
17   43  L.Burges/D.Flack/       
         N.McFadyen               Easts Holiday Parks            Mitsubishi Evo IX GS 2000  D      17    12 2:35.4510  0:23.8103
18   62  A.Gowans/R.Meins/       
         C.Lillington-Pri         Eagle 1                        Lotus Exige S        1800  C      15    10 2:36.4082  0:24.7675
19    3  J.O'Dowd/A.Kennard       Maximum Motorsport             Subaru STI           2500  D      14     9 2:37.9575  0:26.3168
20   50  C.Mostert/A.Walsh/      
         G.McLeod                 Racer Industries               Holden HSV VX-R Turb       E      11     8 2:42.1124  0:30.4717
21    5  Jeremy Gray (NSW)        Tinkler Motor Sports           Ford FG-FPV GT             D      10     9 2:42.5242  0:30.8835
22   80  John Modystach (NSW)     Bruce Lynton BMW               BMW M3               3200  C      14     5 2:44.1219  0:32.4812
23   27  A.Shephard/G.Duffy/     
         P.Stubber                The Shire Conveyancer          BMW 130i             3000  E      15     9 2:45.5079  0:33.8672
24   26  B.Thomlinson/G.Fontaine/
         R.Gartner                G.W.S Personnel                BMW 130i             3000  E      15     4 2:45.5481  0:33.9074
25   68  D.Glasson/D.Roderick/   
         A.Harris                 Motorsport Services Limited    BMW 130i             3000  E      16     2 2:49.4467  0:37.8060

[Gizmo]

Anyone know if there will be a live steam for this like last year?