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Tyres
Hey guys, seeing that GoodYear Autocentre have a 25% sale I've started looking for some tyres - again.
I need something to replace these on my 380
Dunlop SP Sport 230
215/55 R17 v93
The choices I've looked at;
- Pirelli P7 - $920
http://www.carbonblack.com.au/car-tyres ... s/p-7.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.jaxquickfit.com.au/pirelli_p7_details.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- GoodYear EAGLE F1 GS-D3 - $990
http://www.carbonblack.com.au/car-tyres ... gs-d3.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.goodyearautocare.com.au/Tyre ... m=nPerPage" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, the Pirelli is sold at $230/ea, a set of 4 coming at $920, size matches.
The GoodYear F1 is a pricey bastard, $330/ea - but with the sale it's $990 all up, and as there's no matching size I need wider ones; 225/50-17 (it's a bit smaller, by about 10mm on the circumference)
So the price difference is negligible as it is (otherwise I would not even think about the Eagle F1, it's rather pricy)
I've had GoodYear tyres before, and they are not bad. I've also had Pirelli ones and they were awesome. But I had more expensive Pirelli tyres and less expensive GoodYear ones, and the situation here is reversed.
So it's a tough choice as any. Nearly the same price, one seems to be a high-performance tyre (the GoodYear) at a very neat price, but the other I *know* is a pretty damn good tyre.
Any of you guys can give me any ideas? What would you choose? why?
I need something to replace these on my 380
Dunlop SP Sport 230
215/55 R17 v93
The choices I've looked at;
- Pirelli P7 - $920
http://www.carbonblack.com.au/car-tyres ... s/p-7.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.jaxquickfit.com.au/pirelli_p7_details.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- GoodYear EAGLE F1 GS-D3 - $990
http://www.carbonblack.com.au/car-tyres ... gs-d3.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.goodyearautocare.com.au/Tyre ... m=nPerPage" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, the Pirelli is sold at $230/ea, a set of 4 coming at $920, size matches.
The GoodYear F1 is a pricey bastard, $330/ea - but with the sale it's $990 all up, and as there's no matching size I need wider ones; 225/50-17 (it's a bit smaller, by about 10mm on the circumference)
So the price difference is negligible as it is (otherwise I would not even think about the Eagle F1, it's rather pricy)
I've had GoodYear tyres before, and they are not bad. I've also had Pirelli ones and they were awesome. But I had more expensive Pirelli tyres and less expensive GoodYear ones, and the situation here is reversed.
So it's a tough choice as any. Nearly the same price, one seems to be a high-performance tyre (the GoodYear) at a very neat price, but the other I *know* is a pretty damn good tyre.
Any of you guys can give me any ideas? What would you choose? why?
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Re: Tyres
I had Goodyear Eagles on the two door Ford I just sold 245/50/15 on the front and 265/50/15 on the rear , excellent tyres , couldn't fault them .
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Re: Tyres
Thanks for the responses!
Was it the F1 GS-D3 or the assymmetric? Alternatively, if you can't remember, is this what the thread looked like? (this is the F1 GS-D3)mrleisure wrote:I had Goodyear Eagles on the two door Ford I just sold 245/50/15 on the front and 265/50/15 on the rear , excellent tyres , couldn't fault them .
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It's what I quoted, so yes, it's the F1 GS-D3... and they look cool tooysu wrote:Thanks for the responses!
Was it the F1 GS-D3 or the assymmetric? Alternatively, if you can't remember, is this what the thread looked like? (this is the F1 GS-D3)mrleisure wrote:I had Goodyear Eagles on the two door Ford I just sold 245/50/15 on the front and 265/50/15 on the rear , excellent tyres , couldn't fault them .
(I'll get you some pics if you want, after I pick the car up from being serviced)
Edit: Lol, thought you were talking to me.
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No , the ones on my two door were just Goodyear Eagle VR50s not the F1s , very similar tread patern though . I know the F1s are very good also , I talked a mate into fitting them to his RX8 the same ones that are in the pictures and he is pleased with the performance , they really are brilliant in wet conditions .
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Re: Tyres
Great tyres, the Eagle F1's - but they are good for a reason!
The compound is quite soft.
So... if you are used to getting more than 40,000km's out of a set of tyres, Don't get these.
You will be lucky to reach 30,000km's.
The compound is quite soft.
So... if you are used to getting more than 40,000km's out of a set of tyres, Don't get these.
You will be lucky to reach 30,000km's.
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Re: Tyres
Thanks again for the responses
Plus I remember the ones I had didn't last more than 20k - altho back then my driving style was a bit wilder
I know, but the Pirellis aren't really a hard compound either; I don't think they'd last much longer. In fact online reviews suggest it may last even shorter on average.SE1Z wrote:Great tyres, the Eagle F1's - but they are good for a reason!
The compound is quite soft.
So... if you are used to getting more than 40,000km's out of a set of tyres, Don't get these.
You will be lucky to reach 30,000km's.
Plus I remember the ones I had didn't last more than 20k - altho back then my driving style was a bit wilder
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Re: Tyres
Since I stopped driving my car everyday I swapped to Kuhmo KU-36 Semi Slicks. Had them for around 3 months and love them.
Wet weather is abit poor, but no worst then a cheaper set of Tyres, but once they warm up they are insane for the price
http://www.option1garage.com.au/NewTyres.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wet weather is abit poor, but no worst then a cheaper set of Tyres, but once they warm up they are insane for the price
http://www.option1garage.com.au/NewTyres.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I'd be looking for something with a stiff sidewall. You may even be able to fit a wider tyre.richo wrote:Yes i need some new rubber for my Rodeo work truck, i want the most car like 205/70r15's made .
Any ideas?
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I don't drive too much either, but I want a good wet performer, and something which does not need to warm up either, so thanks I'll stick to the road tyresnutty wrote:Since I stopped driving my car everyday I swapped to Kuhmo KU-36 Semi Slicks. Had them for around 3 months and love them.
Wet weather is abit poor, but no worst then a cheaper set of Tyres, but once they warm up they are insane for the price
http://www.option1garage.com.au/NewTyres.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Tyres
I use these (well, similar) as a recce tyre on the forester. Tough tyre, stiff sidewall. Not a huge amount of overall grip but they're strong and hard-wearing.richo wrote:Yes i need some new rubber for my Rodeo work truck, i want the most car like 205/70r15's made .
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noobie question here.. I've never known what the numbers mean for tyres. I'm assuming the first number refers to the width (mm?)? and the last is the rim size in inches?.. whats the middle number? just really wanting to know what the numbers represent and what units they are in.
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its the % number of the tyrewalls height compared to the width.
so 225/50/17 its 50% of 225mm
and yes the 17 is 17 inches.
when i worked at bridgestone i asked why they were all in different meausrements and never got an answer, its just how it is.
so 225/50/17 its 50% of 225mm
and yes the 17 is 17 inches.
when i worked at bridgestone i asked why they were all in different meausrements and never got an answer, its just how it is.
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neil you also forgot to mention the other number that is on tyres.. which is the speed rating
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What's on the tyre wall?
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i forgot the speed rating, its been about 10 months since i have actualy been at bridgestone. give me a breakwobblysauce wrote:neil you also forgot to mention the other number that is on tyres.. which is the speed rating
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NeilPearson wrote:its the % number of the tyrewalls height compared to the width.
so 225/50/17 its 50% of 225mm
and yes the 17 is 17 inches.
when i worked at bridgestone i asked why they were all in different meausrements and never got an answer, its just how it is.
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what else have you forgot?....there's one more thing, keep thinking!NeilPearson wrote:i forgot the speed rating, its been about 10 months since i have actualy been at bridgestone. give me a breakwobblysauce wrote:neil you also forgot to mention the other number that is on tyres.. which is the speed rating
hint: it's the "other number" - the speed rating is the letter after the number.
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the load rating, but i only remembered because of the link you put up!ysu wrote:what else have you forgot?....there's one more thing, keep thinking!NeilPearson wrote:i forgot the speed rating, its been about 10 months since i have actualy been at bridgestone. give me a breakwobblysauce wrote:neil you also forgot to mention the other number that is on tyres.. which is the speed rating
hint: it's the "other number" - the speed rating is the letter after the number.
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ysu wrote:what else have you forgot?....there's one more thing, keep thinking!NeilPearson wrote:i forgot the speed rating, its been about 10 months since i have actualy been at bridgestone. give me a breakwobblysauce wrote:neil you also forgot to mention the other number that is on tyres.. which is the speed rating
hint: it's the "other number" - the speed rating is the letter after the number.
There are heaps of other numbers as well. Another good number to look at is the treadwear number - usually, the lower the number the softer the compound and higher is harder. It is a number that manufacturers are NOT obliged to put on the tyres but most do. The basic idea is a 200 tyre will wear twice as long as a 100 tyre. 100 tyre would usually be something like a semi slick or a seriously soft road tyre. Its a good guide to help choose a tyre but don't choose it based solely on this number.
I don't know enough about the individual types of tyres available to choose a specific tyre for that car Ysu, but given its an FF I would stay away from softer compound tyres, it is already a fairly heavy car with a fairly big and powerful engine. I'd just got for something that has a good compromise on road noise, performance and wear. At the end of the day, the fastest you are going to go is 110kph - so why bother why a tyre thats ment for an m3 in germany?
As for semi slicks unless you are only driving the car a couple of times a month don't even bother. Even if you look after them once they have done enough heat cycles they will just not grip. It doesn't really have anything to do with heating them up. Infact, they heat up quicker than normal road tyres. After they have had a fair few heat cycles they are actually very dangerous on wet roads, especially country roads. They have the water clearing capacity of a restrained feather.
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Re: Tyres
The Eagle GS-D3's ive been told by alot of places that they are being phased out and replaced with the new F1 Asymmetric Tyre. (dunno if its true, but ive been told that old tyres are bad?)
I recently ended up going for a set of Bridgestone Adrenalin's... they seem to grip as well in the wet as my old tyres did in the dry, i couldn't be happier with them.
I recently ended up going for a set of Bridgestone Adrenalin's... they seem to grip as well in the wet as my old tyres did in the dry, i couldn't be happier with them.
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