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Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:34 am
by Big Kev
As a learning exercise I'm trying to do the same car/track combo you guys are doing in your race series but looking at your 'qually' times, I'm miles away. At the moment I'm averaging 6-8s a lap off the back of the grid time.

I've just been trying some laps at silvy in the BMW Z4 GT3. With the default setup I can do a 2.09. I found a setup online from a guy who said he does 1.57 with it. I managed to slice one whole second off my time with a 2.08.0

You guys are currently doing 2.01s.

I don't remember GPL being as tricky as this :) I'm struggling to work out where I'm losing such a large amount of time.

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:52 am
by Righteous
Without seeing a replay it's hard to know what you are doing, but I dare say that you're probably just loosing time mid corner. These cars can carry a lot of speed through the slow corners. I know I had to constantly remind myself at Imola, to keep the speed up around the hairpin.

If you can save a replay then it would be easier to see where you're missing the time.

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:00 am
by dvestate
Look on YouTube for someone that has posted up a fast lap in the same car. Once you watch it a few times you can get a good idea of breaking points and speed :)

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Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:01 pm
by Duke
Kev, go here to grab my replays & sets for both the Z4 GT3 & M3 GT2. ;)

http://www.arseforums.com/phpBB/viewtop ... 79#p382379" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You will most likely need to adjust the brake bias as I use a load cell brake mod.
Other than that be careful with the Z4 on the first lap until the tyres warmup, it's very taily & understeery until they are warmed up. ;)
I found the Z4 can be a touch later / deeper on brake application into the sharper corners but you have to brake earlier & lighter to slow more for the high speed sweepers.
Both behave similarly on power down from corner exit for me.
Have fun trying them & hopefully they help you reduce your lap times. :D

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:28 pm
by Dr. Pain
I've done a 2:04.093 so far on the default set up and I think I can get more time through Stow and Club in the Z4 GT3.

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:44 pm
by Enforcer-J
Have you guys seriously been on the server all day or is it telling fibs? keen to race but cant get in!

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:50 pm
by pixelboy
Sorry, haven't reset the server since the last race.. Will do that tomorrow

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:20 am
by Duke
Enforcer-J wrote:Have you guys seriously been on the server all day or is it telling fibs? keen to race but cant get in!
No mate mine has been all offline HL's. ;)

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:15 am
by Big Kev
Flinty72 wrote:Kev, go here to grab my replays & sets for both the Z4 GT3 & M3 GT2. ;)
Thanks :)

This is a 2.07.9 with your setup.

I did get a 2.06 but didn't get the replay.

I'm probably just not attacking it enough so I lose a little bit everywhere but I feel I don't have another 5+ seconds in me to be honest!!

By the way, on your replay you start a couple of corners from the end. Is that a hack to avoid having to do an outlap?

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:26 am
by Dr. Pain
I was finding the same thing Kev about speed but I found that braking into Stow, for example, brake late and the back end will start to go out and stuff it into Stow in 4th gear. Also I found my line through Maggots, Becketts and Chapel could have been better. After a while I jumped into a Lotus 98T on 100% boost and holy crap, that was fun! :)

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:35 am
by Duke
No hack Kev, it's Hotlap Mode under the Challenges menu. ;)
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LOL that my set made you slower. I'd say you just need more time & practice with the sim. ;)

I'll check your replay & let you know if I see anything obvious that might make up some time for you.

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:23 pm
by dvestate
I used your set to get faster :) went from an 2:07 to a 2:03 ;)

It is about really attacking areas

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Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:05 pm
by DarrenM
In case you weren't aware, make sure tyre wear is turned on. If you have it off with the GT3 cars and use soft tyres you'll be 5+ seconds off the pace.

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:35 pm
by Shaun
it might just be the combo too, i found imola probably the easiest to get a decent lap time, this combo sux arse lol

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:27 pm
by Duke
DarrenM wrote:In case you weren't aware, make sure tyre wear is turned on. If you have it off with the GT3 cars and use soft tyres you'll be 5+ seconds off the pace.
Really, where did you hear that???

I also thought your HL won't count if tyre wear is turned of???

Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:05 pm
by SE1Z
I suck at this track... Too long (for me) a lap, finding it hard to learn.

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Re: Much tougher than GPL!

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:18 am
by Big Kev
Down to a 2.06.6 :) and I have tyre wear on +1