Windows 10

DarrenM · Post by **DarrenM** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:15 am

Going to grab a new ssd tomorrow and install on that using the iso. Want to keep my win7 system until I know everything works. Particularly the rift which apparently only works on an upgraded system.

Post by **Shonky** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:10 am

Can someone clarify for me, do you have to do the upgrade first using a win7/8, or will a win7/8 key activate a clean install from the Win10 iso image straight off the bat?

Enforcer-J · Post by **Enforcer-J** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:09 am

You have to do the upgrade first

http://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-to- ... indows-10/

Post by **Shonky** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:30 am

Cheers EJ, will have a read of that later.

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:40 am

fucking laptop failed again and my net is so slow. Anyone got a win 10 pro key they don't need so i can install it off an iso lol

wobblysauce · Post by **wobblysauce** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:15 pm

For clean install.
Win7 or below, you need a key.
Win8/8.1 No key, as it should be using the UEFI bios and OS is locked to that Mobo.

AstrO · Post by **AstrO** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:27 pm

wobblysauce wrote:For clean install.
Win7 or below, you need a key.
Win8/8.1 No key, as it should be using the UEFI bios and OS is locked to that Mobo.

That's making an assumption that all Win8/8.1 systems are running a motherboard with UEFI support, which is incorrect. For example, my main system runs a GA-890FXA-UD7 motherboard (which has BIOS).

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:31 pm

I'm thinking can i burn the iso i downloaded the other day and run the upgrade from that? The laptop doesnt support boot from usb booo

Enforcer-J · Post by **Enforcer-J** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:10 pm

Shaun wrote:I'm thinking can i burn the iso i downloaded the other day and run the upgrade from that? The laptop doesnt support boot from usb booo

I dont think so... from what I understand you have to have a copy of windows 7/8 on your system already which is what MS identifies to allow the upgrade. You can clean install afterwards as they keep a record of your hardware once its upgraded (could they just use the MAC adress instead of a key buried in the uefi??)

I'm not sure how it works if you buy a new system and install a retail version (is there even one?) Perhaps you need a key then, or maybe it does it automatically by checking against against the hardware and only allows one install from that copy.

im just spitballing here!

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:28 pm

You see what I am doing is running the dvd whilst in windows therefore still using the Upgrade this pc option. So far its at 36% if it doesn't work back to windows 7. Windows 7 feels out dated going from the pc on win 10 to the laptop on 7 haha

Enforcer-J · Post by **Enforcer-J** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:39 pm

Shaun wrote:You see what I am doing is running the dvd whilst in windows therefore still using the Upgrade this pc option. So far its at 36% if it doesn't work back to windows 7. Windows 7 feels out dated going from the pc on win 10 to the laptop on 7 haha

Ahh k let us know how you go

im wary of doing this on the pc as whilst upgrades have been marked, it may not be activated... if that makes sense.

AstrO · Post by **AstrO** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:40 pm

Shaun wrote:You see what I am doing is running the dvd whilst in windows therefore still using the Upgrade this pc option. So far its at 36% if it doesn't work back to windows 7. Windows 7 feels out dated going from the pc on win 10 to the laptop on 7 haha

This should be fine as you launched the install process from Windows. The problems come up when you boot off a USB / DVD and start the process from power on / restart (from my understanding).

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:50 pm

Still a no go, not sure wtf is wrong with this fucking laptop but it is currently restoring my previous version of windows. To the internets!
edit this is the error message i get the installation failed in the safe_os phase with an error during Install_recovery_environment operation

Enforcer-J · Post by **Enforcer-J** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:25 pm

AstrO wrote:
Shaun wrote:You see what I am doing is running the dvd whilst in windows therefore still using the Upgrade this pc option. So far its at 36% if it doesn't work back to windows 7. Windows 7 feels out dated going from the pc on win 10 to the laptop on 7 haha
This should be fine as you launched the install process from Windows. The problems come up when you boot off a USB / DVD and start the process from power on / restart (from my understanding).

So does that mean I could do the same thing even though my windows 10 icon says it isnt yet ready to be downloaded but I have downloaded onto a usb via the ms website?

AstrO · Post by **AstrO** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:35 pm

Enforcer-J wrote:So does that mean I could do the same thing even though my windows 10 icon says it isnt yet ready to be downloaded but I have downloaded onto a usb via the ms website?

In theory yes (but I haven't tested it). Hopefully I'll get a chance to test this tonight... unless I'm racing in FNF (after I drop the other half off and I get the boy to bed).

You can always try this in the meantime... https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... b51?auth=1

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:38 pm

Should work EN-j as long as ur comp isnt a pos like the misses laptop seems to be lol

Sarsippius · Post by **Sarsippius** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:41 pm

DarrenM wrote:Going to grab a new ssd tomorrow and install on that using the iso. Want to keep my win7 system until I know everything works. Particularly the rift which apparently only works on an upgraded system.

Yeah I hadn't thought about the rift, given that I can't use direct mode with iRacing with any runtime from 5 onwards it looks like I'll be with Win 7 at least until CV1 release.

Enforcer-J · Post by **Enforcer-J** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:46 pm

thanks, I may aswell wait anyway, Im hoping to race tonight too so better to be safe than sorry

Dr. Pain · Post by **Dr. Pain** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:04 pm

Only an hour to sort out my sound in Win 10. Had to reinstall sound blaster drivers for my card after a lot of fucking around.

I'm so use to 8.1 that 10 feels odd. It's like it's gone backwards in it's interface. But I was use to swapping to metro via the windows key. It' will grow on me but I have a lot of playing around with settings now to get it looking right.

Only issue was my sound card, so far. Yet to play any games or use my G-25.

wobblysauce · Post by **wobblysauce** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:52 pm

Astro, that is correct.

Enforcer-J · Post by **Enforcer-J** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:21 pm

DexterPunk · Post by **DexterPunk** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:49 pm

Gawd, I'm struggling through this ridiculous launch. Clicked 'Get Windows 10' from the task bar expecting a download to start... how wrong i was! Put in some kind of a queue? What sort of update process is this? An update before doing a clean install is annoying enough, but getting it to update is crazy in the first place.

Anyway, been reading through this helpful thread when I realised it wasn't so straight forward. Found the delete files, run the CMD command while it's checking for updates hack. Failed for me. Decided to go grab the download tool... "Something Happened" ................. ok? You wot m8? I didn't know if this was meant to build suspense or some kind of actual error message. Turns out it's not a good thing. I'm guessing you guys have been through all this already though.

For anyone who doesn't know how to get around it, this seems to have worked for me (downloading now). Head to Control Panel, 'clock, language, and region', click on 'change location', head to 'administrative', 'change system locale', and set it to English (US). I had to do a restart, and then in the task bar make sure i selected US, and then download the tool thingo again, and click 'upgrade'. Hopefully I've jumped the waiting in a queue BS.

Dr. Pain · Post by **Dr. Pain** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:12 pm

Mine worked fine. D/L in the background and was ready for me to launch it. Took 20 mins to install.

DexterPunk · Post by **DexterPunk** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:29 pm

You got lucky by the sounds of it.

Did you reserve a download a while back?

AstrO · Post by **AstrO** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:57 pm

If you are having issues getting the update to install, just use the registry hack that was posted by the Microsoft guy here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... b51?auth=1

It has worked on 2 laptops so far, without any issues (the previous hack to delete the content of the xxx/downloads folder didn't work on any system and always caused a failed update).

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