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Well it's time to upgrade my bike however I need to sell my current one first. I'm asking around $1500. It's not long been serviced and the chain and rear cassette have been replaced and have low km's on them. Full Ultegra SL groupset however the shifters have some cosmetic marks on them which you can see in the pictures. It also comes with the Cateye trip computer.

Forgot to mention the frame size is a Large....oops.

Have you ever ridden nude and tucked your sack into the saddle?

I don't want to offend but do push bikes come any better than yours? What more can you do to make it any better apart from installing a mighty two stroke motor?

That is a nice looking bike.

The two stroke motor is the massive legs pumping up and down! :P lol

What are you buying now Giz?

Yeah itll have to be pretty speccy if this is what you are 'upgrading' from

20-12, 13, 14, 15, 16?

wobblysauce wrote:20-12, 13, 14, 15, 16?

You sunk my battleship!

About time.

It will be a Giant Propel, I'd like to start racing so want something more focused. Norbs will love it, it's ORANGE!!!! Just debating to get it now or wait until my current one sells.

Oh noes, not a Giant!

Those do look fast, and I love the orange one! Looking forward to seeing it mate.

Again not having a dig but doesn't your legs/heart/lungs etc determine how fast a bike goes ? The bearings and rolling resistance in the current bike would be near zero.

Just asking the question .

richo wrote:Again not having a dig but doesn't your legs/heart/lungs etc determine how fast a bike goes ? The bearings and rolling resistance in the current bike would be near zero.

Just asking the question .

You sound like my wife.

No no I'm interested to know what makes the difference when the bike above to the non rider looks kick arse .

It is a very valid question Richo.

For a fat pleb like me, you wouldn't think it would make a difference, but it does. For the elite blokes, it would make a huge difference.

I went from a lower end aluminium bike to a full carbon bike and straight away went faster. A combination of lighter and stiffer and more aero. There was about 2.5 to 2kgs difference in weight, and for me, that is about a 2% drop in total weight. For the lighter guys, the percentage is much higher.

It is the combine affect of all these little things that really adds up. I am sure I could go quicker with a better set of wheels. But the thing that would make me faster than all of these things is if I dropped 10 kgs.

My new bike is over 4kg's lighter than my old one Richo, nearly 5, so you can absolutely feel that change. I get on the old girl now and it's like I'm twice as heavy.

My new wheels are making a difference too, mainly in rolling resistance, there is a definite advantage rolling down hills, I'm rolling past everyone. Surely that's going to help over 100's of km's, I need every hand I can get

Also, it looks cool and makes me want to ride more!

Thanks guys I always wondered what could be done better when bikes get to that level.

My Iron Horse Yakuza mtn bike weighs a metric shitload

richo wrote:Thanks guys I always wondered what could be done better when bikes get to that level.

My Iron Horse Yakuza mtn bike weighs a metric shitload

Giz will tell you too that his new bike is an aero bike so it will cut through the air better. That probably means more to a top level rider.

You mean you have grease and stuff in your bearings.. and there not meant to make noises.

What they said!

Giz if you can stretch the budget a bit more grab a BMC. They're just freakin awesome haha.

Nuffin against Giant, my MTB is a Giant

I love BMC however the Giant is just better value for money. It comes with Ultegra Di2 and Carbon wheels for around 2k less than the BMC.

Seiko is better value than TAG Heuer

Nah fair nuff, can't argue with that.

Gizmo wrote:It will be a Giant Propel, I'd like to start racing so want something more focused.

Giant? You can't get anything more focused than a Focus!