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2018 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PRÊMIO HEINEKEN DO BRASIL

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2018 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PRÊMIO HEINEKEN DO BRASIL

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Lap data
Lap length 4.309km (2.677 miles)
Race laps 71
Race distance 305.909km (190.083 miles)
Pole position Right-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’11.473 (Juan Pablo Montoya, 2004)
Fastest lap 1’09.822 (Rubens Barrichello, 2004, qualifying one)
Maximum speed 310kph (192.625 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) Pit straight and Reta Oposta straight
Distance from grid to turn one 334m
Full throttle 50%
Longest flat-out section 1394m
Downforce level High
Gear changes per lap 42
Fuel use per lap 1.35kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.042s

UK Times
Friday 9th November 2018
Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 11:00-12:30 (UK time: 13:00-14:30)
Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 15:00-16:30 (UK time: 17:00-18:30)
Saturday 10th November 2018
Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 12:00-13:00 (UK time: 14:00-15:00)
Brazilian Grand Prix Qualifying: 15:00 (UK time: 17:00)
Sunday 11th November 2018
Brazilian Grand Prix: 15:10 (UK time: 17:10)

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2017 Germany Sebastian Vettel Ferrari Interlagos
2016 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2015 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2014 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2013 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2012 United Kingdom Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
2011 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
2010 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2009 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
2008 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari
2007 Finland Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
2006 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari
2005 Colombia Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
2004 Colombia Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW
2003 Italy Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan-Ford
2002 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2001 United Kingdom David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes
2000 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari

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Facts from the last race

With the fifth win of his Formula 1 career, Max Verstappen set a new record for having won the most races without ever having started from pole position.

Eddie Irvine and Bruce McLaren each won four grands prix but never qualified on pole position. Of course they will get their record back if Verstappen ever gets his first pole.

Daniel Ricciardo took pole in Mexico by 0.026 seconds, the second-closest pole-winning margin this year (Valtteri Bottas beat Lewis Hamilton by 0.019s in Austria). It was his third career pole position.

That probably cost Verstappen his last and best chance to become the youngest person ever to set pole position for an F1 race. Sebastian Vettel holds the record having been 21 years and 139 days old when he set pole for the 2008 Italian Grand Prix.

Verstappen was 21 years and 32 days old last Saturday, and only has two chances left this year to beat the record. Not that he’s particularly excited about that prospect, as he explained on Sunday. “The record for me is not a big deal,” he said. “The points and stuff are always on Sunday and that’s the most important thing.”

He’s doing well by that measure: this was his seventh consecutive top-five finish. That plus Ricciardo’s fourth retirement in the last seven races has seen Verstappen go from lagging 37 points behind his team mate after the first six races, to being an un-catchable 70 points ahead with two to go. Remarkably, he’s only 20 points off third-placed Raikkonen in the drivers’ championship.

And Verstappen is emphatically the youngest driver ever to win a race. Having scored his first win in the 2016 Spanish Grand Prix, he has added four subsequent wins and is still younger than the next-youngest race winner.

Fourth place for Hamilton ended a nine-race streak of podium finishes which is the second-longest of his career, tying with his first nine races for McLaren in 2007. But more importantly it secured his fifth world championship title.

Hamilton needs to win two more titles and 20 more races to equal Michael Schumacher’s records of seven and 91 respectively. He could make inroads on the latter by winning one of the two remaining races this year. This would be the first time Hamilton has won a race in a season in which he’d already clinched the title, though it bears pointing out he has only entered five races under those circumstances (three in 2015 and two in 2017).

Finally, eighth place for Stoffel Vandoorne meant he scored his first point for 15 races. With Force India failing to score, it gives McLaren a realistic chance of holding on to sixth in the championship.

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Vettel: "There is something loose between my legs, apart from the obvious, something flapping around. It's around my feet, I'd be proud if it was what you think it is but it's not..."

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Very funny & the commentary after it in the review is even better.
Kimi also not knowing what the "f@#k is going on" also made me lol.
Poor Dan will be glad to see the back of this year, another grid penalty, 5 places for replacing a damaged turbo caused by officials having to use a fire extinguisher in Mexico. FFS!!!

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Lewis getting in the way of 2 drives in Qually, no action taken? #blessed
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You'll love this then, Lewis said Sirotkin was disrespectful to pass him when they were both on out laps.

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I don't think Lewis is saying Sirotkin shouldn't get in his way because he's awesome. Just that it's considered a dick move to overtake someone at the end of your out lap when people are slowing to get space.
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Max having a tanty after being hit. Jesus fuck, what a short memory.
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I thin it's fair justified. Ocon was 16th with a less than zero chance of getting up to the points.


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It was a stupid move by Ocon..
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Dumb move by Ocon but a dumber move from Max by not backing out of it .

He needs to understand when to race and when not to. ( /End Armchair Expert1.0)
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Bit 50-50 for me.
Ocon had the right to unlap himself but against the leader you have to be sure it's a clean easy pass. Equally Max didn't have to go wheel to wheel with him and really didn't leave any room on the inside of the corner knowing he was there.
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I disagree Kev. Max was trying to maintain and extend his lead to Hamilton. If he yielded to Ocon he would of lost several seconds and ended up backed up to Hamilton.

Trying to unlap yourself by overtaking around the outside is dumb.

Of course Max shouldn't have reacted the way he did but it's understandable, Ocon cost him the race.

I bet, as a Mercedes young driver, that he would never dream of pulling such a move on Hamilton.
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OK I've watched it again from several angles including this side by side onboard here and whilst I still maintain it was a stupid move by Ocon, a "smart" Max should of seen it coming and let him go up the inside. He would of still lost time but not as much.

Had Ocon waited two more corners he probably would have taken him down the back straight.
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Pix he would have lost a best a second by rolling off the gas , as I said stupid move from Ocon but avoidable .
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What I would like to know, how quickly did Ocon catch him? like if he passed would he actually pull away or was it just a case of using the merc power to catch on the main straight
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I haven't watched the race but seen the post-race shoving by Max.
Just reaffirms my opinion of him... What did he expect would happen given Ocon is one a Merc driver & two desperate to show he deserves a seat in F1 given he has nothing locked in for next year.
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nutty wrote:What I would like to know, how quickly did Ocon catch him? like if he passed would he actually pull away or was it just a case of using the merc power to catch on the main straight
Ocon had just pitted and put supersofts on. He was 14th but had a good chance of catching 11th. Hartley and Sainz were ahead on the track but yet to pit and he had a straight line advantage over Gasley in 11th. He'd sat behind Max for 2 laps but was faster so decided to unlap himself as he was losing time to the cars he was racing. Ocon was 0.5s quicker on the previous lap and fastest of anyone on track at that time by 0.2s.
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The talk in the room of awkwardness afterwards was interesting. Shows how Hamilton assesses the situations better (as seen I think in Austin when he could have battled Max harder to win the title but realised it's not worth it as he can get it next time)

Hamilton - “He can unlap himself, you know”
Verstappen then agrees but says that doesn’t mean he can crash into him.
Hamilton - “You had more to lose there, he had nothing to lose there”.
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Yep. In this instance Hamilton nails it.

It was a shit move by Ocon, but if Max was a little older and wiser, he’d have given plenty of room and stayed out of trouble.


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Ahhhh justice for Montoya, sweet sweet justice.



My 2c.
As much as Ocon has every right to unlap himself that was a risky manoeuvre to pull hanging it on the outside of T1. Max knew he was there and forced the issue when he should have had some patience and hung Ocon to dry on the outside of T3 and finished him off at T4, chopping Ocon off into T2 wasn't necessary and it cost him dearly.

Brundles comments about the push n shove were pretty funny, "handbags at dawn, that wasnt really a fight"

Apart from showing his displeasure of being taken out from the lead I dont know what Max thought he would gain from pushing Ocon about. Shows his mindset given the two incidents happened so far apart and his comments from Mexico about wanting to "damage someone" after missing out on the pole. He pretty much had the moral high ground post incident, but he's really good at shooting himself in the foot. If he shut his mouth and didnt spout things like "im a winner" and acting like a child on the podium, in press conferences and what not the focus would be on Ocon.

The ol saying about the apple doesn't fall far from the tree sounds about right here.



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At first I thought Max had good reason to be angry but then saw more replays and the way he carried on afterwards he really shows himself to be a tosser, he's still young I guess so it's somewhat understandable.

On the incident, as Kev said apparently Ocon sat behind him for a couple laps and was faster, sure there was a risk he might slow Max down once past but the smart move for Max was to let him by down the inside into T1. Instead he defends and puts Ocon in a position where he attempts to pass around the outside, now arguably Ocon could have or should have backed out of it at this point but his intention is to pass and Max is just making it difficult. Max then doesn't leave enough room at T2, I assume he thinks Ocon would have backed out of it and he leaves some room just in case but it end up not being enough.

Ultimately it's a learning experience for Max, getting pissed off and shoving people around post race changes nothing but if he'd raced smarter he would have won.
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If Max isn't careful, he will take over Lewis is the most hated driver at Norbury Towers. He is closing in, fast!
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