2019 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON ÖSTERREICH

[DarrenM]

2019 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON ÖSTERREICH



Red Bull Ring
Track Length: 4.318km
Race Laps: 71
Race Distance: 306.452 km
Lap Record: 1:06.957 Kimi Räikkönen, 2018
Qualifying record: 1:03.130 Valtteri Bottas, 2018

Previous Winners
2018 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer
2017 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
2016 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2015 Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2014 Nico Rosberg Mercedes

Drivers’ Chosen Tyres


Videos

[Duke]

Thanks Darren & best wishes Kev.

I love this track but once again the F1 product needs to change for me to get excited enough to watch it...

[w00dsy]

I love this track but once again the F1 product needs to change for me to get excited enough to watch it...

Serious question, even as a Lewis fan are you really finding it hard watch because the results are always the same or because there's no real fight at the front?

I've lost interest in some categories in the past even though my favourite driver or rider is always winning purely because of the lack of competition. I'd rather see a great battle and see my favourite driver lose than see a boring race that they won. First and foremost I'm a racing fan, a distant second is my team or driver winning.

[Duke]

I love this track but once again the F1 product needs to change for me to get excited enough to watch it...

Serious question, even as a Lewis fan are you really finding it hard watch because the results are always the same or because there's no real fight at the front?

I've lost interest in some categories in the past even though my favourite driver or rider is always winning purely because of the lack of competition. I'd rather see a great battle and see my favourite driver lose than see a boring race that they won. First and foremost I'm a racing fan, a distant second is my team or driver winning.

Short answer is yep...
I was a little the same when Schuey was so dominant but I still watched religiously as in many cases he still had to battle rivals or reliability.
Also back then the cars were just more interesting & violent compared to today's appearing calm & easy to drive (which I know they are not) but it just doesn't come across in the broadcast.
They appear to just sit in the cockpit playing playstation, it has all become very stagnant.

[StanDaam]

Cheers Darren for standing in for Kev and hoping everything goes well for Kev's dad.

[durbster]

Cheers Darren for standing in for Kev and hoping everything goes well for Kev's dad.

Yep, same here. Best wishes Kev.

Also back then the cars were just more interesting & violent compared to today's appearing calm & easy to drive (which I know they are not) but it just doesn't come across in the broadcast.
They appear to just sit in the cockpit playing playstation, it has all become very stagnant.

Yeah there's something in that. Even in the tedious days of Schuey's dominance, the drivers would at least get out of the car looking like they'd done some work. You just don't see that any more.

And I'd even say the same about the cars. Because of all the reliability rules, it never feels like cars are pushing the extremes of performance either. When half the cars wouldn't finish it makes you think they were all skirting along the line of what was possible, and sometimes going too far.

So ultimately, it feels like we're watching a couple of dozen blokes well within their physical limits, driving cars that are well within their engineering tolerances for two hours. Perhaps that's why it's not exactly thrilling these days.

[thornz]

I'm not sure if I'm being nostalgic or not, but the reliability (or lack of) is one thing I think I miss. I remember back in the 90's etc that you were on edge until they actually crossed the finish line, you just didnt know if the car was going to explode on the last lap (Hakkinen/Spain around 2001?).

It was bad enough when reliability got so good where you could watch to the first pit stops and be 95% certain that whoever was in the lead after those would go onto win. Nowadays it pretty much whoever is leading after the first corner will go onto win as the team gives leading driver priority (fair enough as well) on all pit calls, I guess at least Ferrari manage to keep it interesting with being intent on ruining there chances with bad calls.

[durbster]

Yeah, although I criticise Vettel for regularly making mistakes under pressure, without them there would be barely anything to talk about in terms of the WDC

[w00dsy]

I'm not sure if I'm being nostalgic or not, but the reliability (or lack of) is one thing I think I miss. I remember back in the 90's etc that you were on edge until they actually crossed the finish line, you just didnt know if the car was going to explode on the last lap (Hakkinen/Spain around 2001?).

Become a Renault fan.

[Big Kev]

Thanks Darren.

Sadly my dad passed away peacefully in his sleep on Monday evening.
I'll be raising a glass with the F1 on Sunday thinking of him. His eyesight was fading and he didn't necessarily know all the drivers these days but he always asked me who won the race and what it was like. We often saw the first race of the season together as well as any race that was on when I was home.

I hope it's a good race this weekend!
Thanks for your best wishes.

[pab]

Condolences to you and your family Kev. Glad he went peacefully, hope you've got plenty of good times with him to remember him by.

[nutty]

Well said pab!

[w00dsy]

Sorry to hear that Kev. Having known you for close to 2 decades he must have been a good bloke because he raised one. In his honour I'll also toast him sunday night when the race starts. What was his drink of choice?

[norbs]

Condolences Kev.

[Duke]

So sorry to hear of your fathers passing Kev. May you find comfort in those loving memories you have of him.

[Dr. Pain]

Sorry for your loss Kev

[macca]

Condolences Kev

[Big Kev]

Thanks for the kind words guys.

What was his drink of choice?

I'll be having a little glass of whisky for him

[pixelboy]

Sorry Kev,

We'll all be thinking of you and him on Sunday night.

[DarrenM]

I'm sorry to hear that Kev.

[w00dsy]

I hope the race is as interesting as P2.

[Duke]

Ha yeah mire exciting that any race so far this year.
Valtteri's impact registered 25G!!!

[DarrenM]

Could be a good race thanks to the mixed up grid and potential for broken front wings in the last corner

Only LeClerc from pole and Grosjean from 11th are starting from their qualifying positions after all the grid penalties.

George Russell qualified in 19th, got a 3 place penalty for impeding but will start 18th.

Hamilton, 3 place due to impeding Raikkonen in qual.
Magnusson, 5 place penalty for a gearbox change.
Russell, 3 place due to impeding Kyvat.
Nico Hulkenberg 5 place due to engine change.
Carlos Sainz and Alex Albon rear of grid for having used too many power unit elements.

[Dr. Pain]

It's like every Dutchie moved to Austria for the weekend and landed in Spielberg!

[norbs]

This will be interesting.

Max shoved Charles off the track.

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