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2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:30 am
by Big Kev
2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

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Circuit Zandvoort
Lap data
Lap length 4.259km (2.646 miles)
Race laps 72
Race distance 306.648km (190.542 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Maximum speed 309kph (192.004 mph)
Distance from grid to turn one 215m

UK Times
Friday 25th August 2023
Dutch Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 12:30-13:30 (UK time: 11:30-12:30)
Dutch Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 16:00-17:00 (UK time: 15:00-16:00)
Saturday 26th August 2023
Dutch Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 11:30-12:30 (UK time: 10:30-11:30)
Dutch Grand Prix Qualifying: 15:00 (UK time: 14:00)
Sunday 27th August 2023
Dutch Grand Prix: 15:00 (UK time: 14:00)

Previous Winners
1980 Brazil Nelson Piquet Brabham-Ford
1981 France Alain Prost Renault
1982 France Didier Pironi Ferrari
1983 France René Arnoux Ferrari
1984 France Alain Prost McLaren-TAG
1985 Austria Niki Lauda McLaren-TAG
1986 – 2020 Not held due to no race contract and the COVID-19 pandemic
2021 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-Honda
2022 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-RBPT


Videos

Red Bull 360 camera lap


Tambay 1978


Standings

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Re: 2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:06 am
by Big Kev
DannyRic has broken his wrist in his FP2 crash.

Liam Lawson will be in for the rest of the weekend.

Re: 2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:37 pm
by durbster
What brutal luck for RIC.

Max is obviously going to win the race but the McLarens are looking quick. There might be yet some good news for Australian fans this weekend.

Re: 2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:40 am
by Big Kev
Rain always helps but that was an interesting race, despite the result.

It's amazing how fast Perez was when he dived in early for inters. You have to wonder how he didn't win it after that. He was nearly 15s clear at one point!

McLaren badly need a strategist..... just don't get one from Ferrari :D I was willing Lando to box when the rain first hit but he stayed out 2 laps too long.

Re: 2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:49 am
by nutty
Yep great race, paying for the tiredness today haha.

But your spot on with Mclaren, they have really been hopeless of late, seem to always been a step behind..

I never understand why these teams make soo many mistakes, I get it when theres weather variables, but surely for dry races these days they build models and then have compute workout when the right time to pit is..

Re: 2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:29 pm
by Bauer
I really thought when Lando didn’t pit, Oscar would. Really poor. Surely sometimes you need to take a risk with 1 but not both drivers. Either way is a risk but have a crack.

Checo must be a bit down that the team do not care for his desire to win races.

Re: 2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:15 pm
by nutty
Yeah thats what surprised me the most, you really don't want to double stack (especially in that pit lane) surely if your Oscar's team and you know your going to get disadvantaged if you have to pit the next lap you would just pit earlier. the whole being on the right tyre at the right time.

As for Checo, why wouldnt you prioritise Max.. Its clear Checo isnt going to beat him on a normal day, Max is your preset and future and you know he is touchy.. if Checo isnt happy im sure theres a bunch of drivers who would love to come to RB even as a #2.. (dan anyone?)

Re: 2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:06 pm
by Big Kev
Considering almost exactly the same happened when Lando was leading at Sochi and they kept him out and he went backwards you'd have thought they would have learnt from their mistakes. You could could see from the TV pictures that it was bucketing down and even if it stopped after 2 minutes the track would be wet for a while. The rooster tails were huge.o Lando could have won that race. And yes you're right about Piastri, at least box one of them, especially when Perez was taking lumps out of everyone even in the first sector out of the pits.

Even if Perez wins the rest of the races and Max is 2nd, Max still wins the title. If Perez hasn't realised it already, they really don't care about him! I could see DannyRic being back in there next season.

Re: 2023 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:53 pm
by durbster
I was out for a family meal so missed the first part of the race. I wasn't too bothered because I didn't remember Zandvoort being particularly eventful previously and Max was clearly going to win.

You can imagine my surprise and confusion when I got home and put the TV on about 25 laps in :D