Drift Battles

nutty · Post by **nutty** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:51 pm

SE1Z wrote:speaking of drift sets... ????

i looked on RSC, they have no sets at all anymore... the inferno site are race sets.
the *new* LFS forum i noticed had 1 set, for GTT... thats all ii could find.

Any clues?

Inferno have drift setups too! I use [SAIKO^D]StaN's setup for both the fz5 and the xrt they seem to be well balanced.

http://setupfield.teaminferno.hu/?p_sec ... version=S2

petey · Post by **petey** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:03 pm

I just Altered Camber slightly for my set, and fiddled a bit to give a bit more rear hold during slide.

Takumi · Post by **Takumi** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:31 pm

dang thats harsh on the eyes

spoonsports · Post by **spoonsports** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:18 pm

ok tak..we gotta make a PR drift skin
and yes that paintjob is horrid on the vision

petey · Post by **petey** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:22 pm

EDIT: I'm an idiot, and i know i can't photoshop for nuts, that was a distraction.......... See, you just read all those dots for no reason, that was another distraction.......................................................................

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:46 pm

yeh hopefully i can give round one a go, i may be able to stay up a bit later and run it, all depends i may have work training now as i just got a job tonight

Talasas · Post by **Talasas** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:01 pm

I'm in for sure! I think it has been a long time coming. Hopefully the judging will be fair for all.

Will you guys implement a fixed system? I'm not sure how many judges there are in D1...

nutty · Post by **nutty** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:40 pm

Alright, looks like ive settled on a layout for the first race.. We run it like this and see how it goes, we take feedback from the first race and perhaps launch a series soon after.
Ive uploaded a replay, its only 85kb so everyone please watch it. it outlines the track/rules and also mentions what judges will be looking for.

http://nutteh.com/files/driftorules.mpr

One thing I didn't mention, is that you need to stay fairly close to the guy in front, basically a judge will have the camera on the lead car, if we cant see you in 2nd.. no chance of you winning.

I have also done a bracket, just so you understand the knockout, check it out here
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?t ... 20Drifting

Talasas, we currently have 16 drivers, but your first reserve atm, im sure someone will drop out

Judges: this is excatly how it will work, there will be x amount of judges (im hoping for around 4-5) after a run, each judge will list who they think won, this will count as a "point" after both runs the points will be added, winner moves through, its not the greatest system.. but it makes it easy and fair.

On the topic of judges, we currently have myself and spoonsports, who will be watching when not driving ourself, r8 has also put his name down, but im looking for at least another one or two people to judge.

Practice guys, the corners aren't the easiest to drift, so make sure you can do it fairly well, not to well.. I want to win

dvestate · Post by **dvestate** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:44 pm

Dam I'll be on my Honeymoon, would hav loved to get into some drift action

petey · Post by **petey** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:07 am

Nice plan nutty, lets hope it works

.

Takumi · Post by **Takumi** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:59 am

bugle what car are you planning to use mate?

Bionic · Post by **Bionic** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:08 pm

what happens if the driver in front is in the fz5 and the driver behind is in the XRT. he might have some problems keepsing up. and thanks to this they wont get a good score

SE1Z · Post by **SE1Z** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:11 pm

this whole 2 driver show...
having never really watched a drift battle before.. i dont know the rules and what the judges are looking for etc...

any chance you could update your first post with this info Nutty?

Cheers,
Steve

Hamal · Post by **Hamal** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:56 pm

From what I've seen, the two cars take off and one is designated as the 'leader'. He leads them through the course while the 'follower' has to remain as close as possible to the leader. If the follower remains the same distance during the entire race then he isn't penalised. If he falls back then he is. If the follower actually manages to pass *while drifting* then he automatically wins no matter what. Passing while 'gripping' or on the straight incurs no advantage (and may even be penalised???).

There are two runs so that each driver gets a chance to be the leader.

The other aspect of drifting is style. How sideways can you go and how consistent are you? Do you have to correct too often? Do you follow the traditional line, ie: do you hit the apex and drift out to the outside on the exits etc? Most of the scoring I have seen involves a score out of ten. Ie: If both cars are equal then they both score a 5. If one is slightly better, he scores a 6 and the other a 4. If one kicks butt, he scores say an 8 and the other a 2.

I actually don't like the event you guys have planned. There is that very long straight where faster cars will be tempted to blast past adding confusion.

Anything else you need to know is very well covered in nutty's multiplayer replay above. Very good stuff nutty and I think most of this post is just regurgitating your excellent 'tutorial'.

Takumi · Post by **Takumi** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:24 pm

i would tend to agree, the choice of any car adds chaos to the confusion. the 2 people battling should have comparable cars, like rb4 vs xrt, rac vs fz5 or whatever.

i originally wanted to go in the XRG, but what if the opponent is in an XRT and im following? basically i cant keep up and im screwed.

SE1Z · Post by **SE1Z** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:50 pm

Thanks for the guide Hamal.
I'll be sure to check out Nutty's replay when I get home.

Im neew to the whole drift thing, but it is fun

petey · Post by **petey** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:23 pm

Wow, that was nothing like what i thought Hamal, I don't "think" we are doing the "Formal" Drift Battle, I think it was just, drift through the section, then you are judged on who was the most style, i don't think there is any race in it at all. Then again i might be wrong

Hamal · Post by **Hamal** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:07 pm

According to Nutty's replay, it will be 'formal drift battle rules'. You will be going up against a competitor and you immediately head back to the start line to run the race again so that both people get a chance to lead.

Really, Nutty explains it heaps better than I could

wobblysauce · Post by **wobblysauce** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:39 pm

yep.. thats it hamel

tyre blow outs.. nothing is counted by it unless you

spin = lose

crash into the other person = lose

so countinue like nothing happend

hum just like.. Talasas .. could u put me down for sub

also judge if not racing...

petey · Post by **petey** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:00 pm

Hamal wrote:According to Nutty's replay, it will be 'formal drift battle rules'. You will be going up against a competitor and you immediately head back to the start line to run the race again so that both people get a chance to lead.

Really, Nutty explains it heaps better than I could

Yep i got that part, 2 people go, come back, go again reverse order. Just in your post you said you could overtake when drifting, i thought there was no overtaking at all.

Talasas · Post by **Talasas** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:53 pm

There indeed is. That's the biggest win of all but it's not reccommended as if you hit the other car you will lose automatically. I've been watching my old drift videos boning up on the rules

petey · Post by **petey** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:33 pm

Cool

I have no idea about Drifting apart from getting sideways

Thats as far as i go...

Acerlyte · Post by **Acerlyte** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:54 pm

I will pull out guys, throw in Talasas or Wobbly as they are probably actually ABLE to drift unlike me ^_^. Maybe once I can do it alright I might have a go, but in any case I would really like to grab a replay or spectate as it really is fun to watch

Mr.Ferret · Post by **Mr.Ferret** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:17 pm

Sad to hear acer (acording to that bracket thing i would have been vursing you first :P)

also i had a bit of an idea

You guys know the Stoopid of the week award right?

Well how about we try and orgonise something like that for the winner of this?

Sliding Sideways Monkey award or something :P

wobblysauce · Post by **wobblysauce** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:34 pm

Acerlyte wrote:I will pull out guys, throw in Talasas or Wobbly as they are probably actually ABLE to drift unlike me ^_^. Maybe once I can do it alright I might have a go, but in any case I would really like to grab a replay or spectate as it really is fun to watch

poor darts man