Real-time Engine Sound Editor

Peptis · Post by **Peptis** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:47 am

From the official LFS forum http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=18232

To bring up an interactive real-time engine sound editor, while in-game type /edit_eng and then press Shift-A

and a comment from Scawen about it

No, it wasn't meant to be found. We decided not to document the editor before the sound system was finished. If we provide a documented feature then it becomes my duty to try to protect your data (allowing old versions to still be loaded as the system is updated) and so on. But as the sound system changes, old files often become invalid, because their data was designed for an older system.

So, if you use the sound editor system, please regard it as an undocumented feature that is not supported by us - and be prepared for the fact that your sound files will probably become invalidated at some point by a patch or test patch which contains sound improvements. And assume that I won't answer any questions on this either - it's an editor for a system that is still work in progress.

Anyway... for those want to try editing and don't mind their work being deleted, I hope you have fun using the editor!

This is what it looks like

http://www.lfsforum.net/attachment.php? ... 1169111821

Mr.Ferret · Post by **Mr.Ferret** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:29 am

ooooohhhhhh

Sterling · Post by **Sterling** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:51 am

Coolness...........

aoun · Post by **aoun** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:10 pm

i saw this on the lfs forums.. im not going to touch this as i wouldnt kno wat the fuk im doiinn =).

Peptis · Post by **Peptis** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:46 pm

aoun wrote:i saw this on the lfs forums.. im not going to touch this as i wouldnt kno wat the fuk im doiinn =).

I'm just going to play with the sliders

plastik8 · Post by **plastik8** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:25 pm

*cough* CSR ftw *cough*

kwijibo · Post by **kwijibo** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:53 pm

plastik8 wrote:*cough* CSR ftw *cough*

hehe, my first thought/hope when i saw this was "maybe they're trying to make a CSR like system!"

I got all excited, then realised I could just use CSR anyway

I also installed some new tyre screech sounds i found on lfsforum recently.. they're great

Blowtus · Post by **Blowtus** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:46 pm

I found I could make engine sounds I preferred, but still got nothing on CSR.
Is interesting to see that lfs does use samples though

Exar Kun · Post by **Exar Kun** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:07 pm

Blowtus wrote:I found I could make engine sounds I preferred, but still got nothing on CSR.
Is interesting to see that lfs does use samples though

Really? I seem to remember RBR had procedural engine sounds generated from samples. So there was one sample for a single cylinder firing and then it would alter/repeat that sound depending on load/rpm etc. Wasn't too bad actually. Better than LFS and nkpro anyway.

Sterling · Post by **Sterling** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:17 pm

Real time generated sounds are the way to go I believe but at present the new sounds are quite woeful and actually rather embarrassing, trying to convince friends/new racers that LFS is worth the money with these sounds is quite difficult. However I expect the work that is being done now will eventually reap rewards in the future, the only problem being is that it takes so long for LFS to progress towards that future.

Blowtus · Post by **Blowtus** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:10 pm

Exar Kun wrote:Really? I seem to remember RBR had procedural engine sounds generated from samples. So there was one sample for a single cylinder firing and then it would alter/repeat that sound depending on load/rpm etc. Wasn't too bad actually. Better than LFS and nkpro anyway.

Yeah, LFS does the same thing. I just remember various folk whinging about csr being a 'sample' based system. No matter

aoun · Post by **aoun** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:50 pm

CSR is hopeless! never liked it one bit, but the sounds were nice i gotta admit.

Its just it can lag abit, and you cant feel the skid etc..

Blowtus · Post by **Blowtus** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:44 pm

you didn't have it setup right aoun.

plastik8 · Post by **plastik8** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:03 am

aoun wrote:CSR is hopeless! never liked it one bit, but the sounds were nice i gotta admit.

Its just it can lag abit, and you cant feel the skid etc..

Lagging can be the result of a struggling pc... A temporary fix is to increase it's thread priority... A permanent fix is to buy a post-2000 PC!

Then, slightly lower the CSR sounds and up the skid sounds from within LFSto the max amount if you wish

With CSR setup correctly I'm no longer afraid to crank up my stereo and the sub woofer! Sounds awesome

Rots · Post by **Rots** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:03 pm

Fuck me, look at the list of different sounds LFS has for any one car!! Even after all that, they sound crap now!

I'm gonna make a backup version of S2 and have some fun... easier way to ignore the "invalidated" problem Scawen talks about.

OOOOOOOOOOOO Air Intake... I'm gonna beef that up. Nothing I love more than a rich/deep induction noise. Mate of mine had a Datsun 240K and the induction noise of that beast was felt within metres of the engine, not just heard. I guess tripple Webber Carby's helped.. not mention all the other work it had done to it.

petey · Post by **petey** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:14 pm

It's good fun to play with, can get some nice sounds, smooth and chuggy, or high and whiney...Nothing realistic but still more pleasing to the ear in my opinion.

iMAXIBON · Post by **iMAXIBON** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:29 pm

lfs sounds crap? WHAT!?

it sounds great, theres lots of detail, theres seriously nothing wrong with it. holy shit complain-o-rama.

i tried CSR for a while and i was sort of getting to like it, untill i tried to recod a clip with fraps and it just wouldnt run. now i've reinstalled both fraps and lfs and removed all traces of CSR and it still wont work. not happy jan.

this editor is awesome. the effect of dragging the sliders is pretty subtle though. but its easy to play with, doesnt lag or pop or corrupt your boot sector and you can save your modifications as a preset, ala autoX. end the race or change cars and anything you bugger up will go back to standard anyway.

right, everyone start pressing buttons and see what else you can discover

Crash Dummy · Post by **Crash Dummy** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:48 pm

If anyone is interested i've got the turbo cars sounding pretty hot. Loud sucky turbo noises followed by a blow off valve-less turbo flutter

I'll post up a sound clip shortly.

You'll never guess where i got the sample from.. Search VL Turbo dose on youtube

Oh and with a little tweaking the LX6 and LX4 can be made to sound very very horny.

Crash Dummy · Post by **Crash Dummy** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:31 pm

Here is a little something I think some people might like
If you don't. You don't have to say anything nasty either.

It's a quick video and profile to set the car up to sound as shown in the video.
The LX6 sounds pretty tough and the XR GT Turbo is set up to simulate the sound of a turbo car with no turbo compressor bypass valve (blow off valve or dump valve) as some of you know it. And no i'm not talking about the exhaust wastegate so please don't argue about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzaoOGmc_nA

Enjoy.

The sample for the turbo flutter was taken from a video of a VL Commodore Turbo that I found on youtube. So finding a better sound to make it sound nicer wouldn't be hard. It was just the first thing I could find.

*as posted on the official LFS forum*

Vilante · Post by **Vilante** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:37 pm

Nice

I love the induction roar of the LX

Post by **Shonky** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:43 pm

Hehe, all the XR GT Turbo needs now is a doof doof soundtrack.

Crash Dummy · Post by **Crash Dummy** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:49 pm

Coming right up!

*edit*
This might take a little while. I'm just trying to get my hands on the perfect track

Crash Dummy · Post by **Crash Dummy** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:21 pm

As requested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AmtRSjFHU
*video fixed*

I'd forgotten to fade out the audio tracks between video streams so I had the sounds from two different videos playing at once which were in sync. The one from in car and TV cam.

EzyRider · Post by **EzyRider** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:34 pm

Shik moite, feckin roite orf maite~!

Fooly shik shub shounds br0, goez roit orf maite.

(You should see my spell checker, going nuts over all of that.)

I

'd, fantastic mate

Post by **Shonky** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:54 am

"My subs, My subs, My subs, My F!@#'in Crazy subs!"