TEST Patch X30 : Formula BMW / Track / Physics Updates

Post by **Shonky** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:34 pm

Dude, find the money for some A1's, they are worth every cent, I haven't had to recalibrate mine once since I've had em not counting the initial setup and that was close to 18 months ago. They are built like the proverbial brick shit house!

AstrO · Post by **AstrO** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:46 pm

I wish I had some spare cash so I could buy some new hardware

(A1 or G25)

NeilPearson · Post by **NeilPearson** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:52 am

Still think you should get those speed 7s. best thing i ever bought.

DarrenM · Post by **DarrenM** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:02 am

I wanted to get the clutch pedal and the MK2 board for my Speed 7's but they want $120 shipping for the pedal

avaran · Post by **avaran** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:02 am

You guys do realise you can still look at 90 degrees right?
You press and hold the direction you want to look, and then press the other look button at the same time!

Peptis · Post by **Peptis** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:13 am

avaran wrote:You guys do realise you can still look at 90 degrees right?
You press and hold the direction you want to look, and then press the other look button at the same time!

I'd have to take a finger out of my nose to do that!

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:17 am

avaran wrote:You guys do realise you can still look at 90 degrees right?
You press and hold the direction you want to look, and then press the other look button at the same time!

I think the issue with most ppl, like me is that when driving H pattern or Seq stick shift & having the paddles as look left/right on my G25 wheel it is quite difficult to hit both paddle buttons while shifting gears

r8response · Post by **r8response** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:08 am

NeilPearson wrote:http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Speed7/

dada!

Meh id rather http://advantage1.com.au/ at least you'd be supporting an Australian company.

Fandango · Post by **Fandango** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:52 pm

ANyone used G25 and A1's? Feedback?

kwijibo · Post by **kwijibo** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:34 pm

Flinty72 wrote:
avaran wrote:You guys do realise you can still look at 90 degrees right?
You press and hold the direction you want to look, and then press the other look button at the same time!
I think the issue with most ppl, like me is that when driving H pattern or Seq stick shift & having the paddles as look left/right on my G25 wheel it is quite difficult to hit both paddle buttons while shifting gears

I use the front wheel buttons on my momo.. so I dont see this would be an issue for me

What do you use the wheel buttons for on the G25? pit limiter? move it to the shifter

edit: guess the same problem would apply when using H shifter to change gear tho eh

NeilPearson · Post by **NeilPearson** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:46 pm

r8response wrote:
NeilPearson wrote:http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Speed7/

dada!

Meh id rather http://advantage1.com.au/ at least you'd be supporting an Australian company.

support australian company vs better product.

thats not a hard thing to choose in my opinion.

Exar Kun · Post by **Exar Kun** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:59 pm

NeilPearson wrote:
r8response wrote:
NeilPearson wrote:http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Speed7/

dada!

Meh id rather http://advantage1.com.au/ at least you'd be supporting an Australian company.
support australian company vs better product.

thats not a hard thing to choose in my opinion.

Or spend half the money to get something that's still pretty damn good...

r8response · Post by **r8response** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:07 pm

NeilPearson wrote:
r8response wrote:
NeilPearson wrote:http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Speed7/

dada!

Meh id rather http://advantage1.com.au/ at least you'd be supporting an Australian company.
support australian company vs better product.

thats not a hard thing to choose in my opinion.

You don't have to choose. A1 pedals are australian made and a better product, best of both worlds

$695.70 For the BRD versus $269.00 for the A1's. He could buy a set of pedals and a G25 for that price

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:19 pm

kwijibo wrote:
Flinty72 wrote:
avaran wrote:You guys do realise you can still look at 90 degrees right?
You press and hold the direction you want to look, and then press the other look button at the same time!
I think the issue with most ppl, like me is that when driving H pattern or Seq stick shift & having the paddles as look left/right on my G25 wheel it is quite difficult to hit both paddle buttons while shifting gears
I use the front wheel buttons on my momo.. so I dont see this would be an issue for me What do you use the wheel buttons for on the G25? pit limiter? move it to the shifter

edit: guess the same problem would apply when using H shifter to change gear tho eh

My wheel buttons are for Pit Limiter (or handbrake for rally) and the other for PTT on TS.
But still wouldn't help like you said I would still need 3 hands

EDIT: I have a work around anyway, just map the button combo into profiler as one wheel button for each direction & problem solved.

avaran · Post by **avaran** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:19 pm

I use the paddles for shifting, and the two buttons for looking (G25) No problems here. Altough reaching over to the h shifter for TS is annoying.

Plus as mentioned above, same problem with the h shifter

And also, taking the finger out of the nose...

Sterling · Post by **Sterling** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:26 pm

r8response wrote:
NeilPearson wrote:
r8response wrote:
Meh id rather http://advantage1.com.au/ at least you'd be supporting an Australian company.
support australian company vs better product.

thats not a hard thing to choose in my opinion.
You don't have to choose. A1 pedals are australian made and a better product, best of both worlds

$695.70 For the BRD versus $269.00 for the A1's. He could buy a set of pedals and a G25 for that price

Indeed..............love my A1's.......rock solid and super value.

NeilPearson · Post by **NeilPearson** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:19 pm

Are the A1s Fully adjustable? as in changeable spring rates, dampers and pedal travel?

Peptis · Post by **Peptis** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:18 pm

As promised, here's an AutoHotkey script to do 90 degree looks left and right. Although you can do this in the Logitech profiler, I try to stay away from using that horrible thing.

Code: Select all

; - Left --
joy3::
send {left down}{right down}
keywait joy3
send {left up}{right up}
return

; - Right --
joy4::
send {right down}{left down}
keywait joy4
send {right up}{left up}
return

Just chuck this into into a .ahk file and run it on startup.

Map left arrow to look left and right arrow to look right within LFS. You may need to replace joy3 & joy4 with the appropriate buttons on your wheel/joystick. I'm using a black Momo with the top two buttons as look left/right.

Sarsippius · Post by **Sarsippius** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:39 pm

NeilPearson wrote:Are the A1s Fully adjustable? as in changeable spring rates, dampers and pedal travel?

Only spring rates by interchanging them with stiffer or softer ones, no doubt the speed7's are better but 2-3 times better?

@ Fandango, I have a G25 and the A1 pedals and they're both great. The wheel is very nice and quite compact, definitely a class above the black momo I used to have. The A1 pedals are rock solid and the pedal layout is much better than the G25 ones, the brake and throttle are closer and properly offset so that heel-toeing is much easier and more natural. The A1 pedals will last a lifetime, the G25 wheel won't but it's very sturdy and I'd expect it to last a very long time. The G25 shifter is more flimsy but still very nice to have, mine is having a few issues though and may need to be sent back, fifth gear pops out on me atm.

Gusto · Post by **Gusto** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:12 pm

This is an interesting car, very bumpy

Fandango · Post by **Fandango** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:24 pm

Cool sarsi... thanks mate.

Something to save for me thinks

Post by **Cutter** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:38 pm

What Sars said.
To me the pefect combination.

TassieDevil_Original · Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:01 am

kwijibo wrote:
Flinty72 wrote:
avaran wrote:You guys do realise you can still look at 90 degrees right?
You press and hold the direction you want to look, and then press the other look button at the same time!
I think the issue with most ppl, like me is that when driving H pattern or Seq stick shift & having the paddles as look left/right on my G25 wheel it is quite difficult to hit both paddle buttons while shifting gears
I use the front wheel buttons on my momo.. so I dont see this would be an issue for me What do you use the wheel buttons for on the G25? pit limiter? move it to the shifter

edit: guess the same problem would apply when using H shifter to change gear tho eh

On my G25 how I used to use it before they stuffed it up, is paddles for left/right, both together for rear view(which I like to use a lot, better than any mirrors), and the left button for handbrake, and the right button for Team Speak(much easier to press the button on wheel while trying to talk to your mates rather than having to reach for the shifter buttons.) And where my shifter is mounted it is very hard to reach most of the buttons when you need them in a hurry without losing your driving line.

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:58 am

HA take this flinty!

Changes in TEST PATCH X32 :

Physics :

FIX : Puncture remained even if tyres were replaced
FIX : Moved objects could reappear inside stationary cars

Interface :

Updated LFS icon in LFS.exe - thanks to ORION
FIX : Hotlap replay started timer at start of replay
FIX : MPR with licensed track causeD LFS demo to crash
FIX : Horn / flash did not work after engine switched off
FIX : Car with engine off got stuck after /pitlane command

AI :

AI should stay within limits on rumble and bad surfaces
AI paths regenerated taking account of bad surfaces
FIX : AI would get speed penalty in various pit lanes
FIX : AI would not pit to repair worn or punctured tyre
FIX : AI would never pit during practice or a timed race
FIX : AI would drive backwards at the drag strip

Training :

FIX : Some more lesson text files updated
FIX : Driving out of bounds could result in being stuck

South City :

Texture updates
Graphical updates
Fixes for reported bugs

AFTER X30 IS INSTALLED, update to X32 with the auto updater - just click Multiplayer... List of Hosts

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:48 am

well done Shaun

South City :
Texture updates
Graphical updates

This is interesting, I would have thought since the City update was being developed for so long that it was all done but looks like they are still tinkering with it.

I also just found this on the LFS Forum:

Scawen from LFS Forum wrote:I don't have any plans to make any changes to physics before Patch Y. Patch Y must be out this week so I've just got a couple of days to fix a few more bugs, so there are then another couple of days in final testing with no more changes other than crashes and showstopper fixes.