Wide Angle Lenses and Maybe Filter Setups

Post by **Shonky** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:40 pm

After some thought on my up coming trip to Tassie I'm thinking I'll need something a little wider than the 24-70 for some interesting landscape photos. Since I'm on a 400D with a crop of 1.6 I'm trying to figure out which lens would be the go in the 10-22 range.

Forgetting price for the moment, which of the following lenses do you reckon would be the better option?

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM <-- Useless if at some point in time I upgrade the body to a full frame model, but a good lens from what I've read.

Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM AF <--Already have the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 and I am happy with it. Works on full frame models.

Tokina 12-24mm f/4 AT-X 124AF Pro DX <-- Another lens designed for crop camera, but will also work on a full frame down the track, I'm liking this for the constant apeture but it's not a high priority since I'll most likely be shooting landscapes in daylight anyway.

Got any suggestions for a lens I haven't named here let me know, the ones above I'm looking at cause the bloke I deal with has these in stock.

Also on the filter side of things, I'm thinking of tracking down some GND filters, and some ND filters as well, just to allow longer exposure times in the daylight hours. Got any suggestions on this front, I've been looking at the Cokin Z series setup but it's a fair amount of investment.

Nigel · Post by **Nigel** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:01 pm

You have a lot more options open with faster glass. I know one of the issues I have with the large zoom I have is that at f/5.6 its just not fast enough to really get the shots I want, where as f/4.0 or less do. So I would go for the faster glass. I would go for the Cokin P series as it has a good amount of creativity and is not that expensive. Filters that go in on the other hand can be a little pricey depending on what you want. I know Kodak have filters for cinecameras which work fine with the P series.

Post by **norbs** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:24 pm

Shonky. I think the Sigma is fro cropped sensors as well. Otherwise I sold mine to Macca for nothing.

Post by **Shonky** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:47 pm

So it is.

Cheers for pointing that out Norbs. Bah, why are all the wide lenses for crop cameras. I guess on full frame the most you'd ever want would be 17mm before things started looking too fish-eye.

Post by **norbs** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:52 pm

SHoNKY wrote:So it is. Cheers for pointing that out Norbs. Bah, why are all the wide lenses for crop cameras. I guess on full frame the most you'd ever want would be 17mm before things started looking too fish-eye.

The 17-40mmf/4L is a great lense on FF. But she is expensive.

pixelboy · Post by **pixelboy** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:10 pm

if you got a zoom starting @ 24 id go for a prime around 15 or 17mm

Cheaper and probably quicker (lower aperture) than a zoom.

maybe this Sigma one?

Im interested how you go as id love something wider than my 18-55 allows

Post by **Shonky** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:31 pm

Hmm.....I didn't even think of using a prime, I might have to look into them some more since the I'm yet to find a wide angle zoom that takes my fancy. Cheers for the idea Pix.

Nigel · Post by **Nigel** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:52 pm

Shonky, a 24mm lense on a full frame camera is wide angle, its just less wide on a cropped sensor so there is the need for an even wider lense to achieve the same thing. Hence the 10mm lenses.

Post by **norbs** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:57 pm

But 10mm on a 1.6 crop isn't equal to 24mm on FF.

Nigel · Post by **Nigel** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:59 pm

No but its close

pixelboy · Post by **pixelboy** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:06 pm

well its close to the angle of view but the perspective will be totally different..

whats the cheapest FF canon ?

Nigel · Post by **Nigel** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:08 pm

A Canon film SLR.

Post by **Shonky** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:28 pm

A film SLR might be cheapest now, but not in the long run. Does anyone even process film these days?

Might just pick up the Tokina 12-24 f/4, that then covers the wide range for me, and by the sounds of it, if I ever go to a full frame body I probably won't need the 12-24 anyway.

pixelboy · Post by **pixelboy** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:29 pm

How much is the Tokina Dave?

Post by **Shonky** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:32 pm

Just under $700 mate. There's a lot of sample pics taken with it here.

pixelboy · Post by **pixelboy** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:10 pm

Looks very nice mate... I want one

Gusto · Post by **Gusto** » Sun May 27, 2007 12:49 am

I have an 8mm peleng. Problem is that the edges don't have the same aspect ratio as the middle so I have to redistort them in photoshop (slight quality loss but makes it full frame). Got mine for less than 300 off ebay.

The Tokina lens looks brilliant though! I'd get that one

TassieDevil_Original · Sun May 27, 2007 3:01 pm

SO Shonky when are you coming down here, and what end of the state are you going to be at?

I'm in Launceston mate...

Tassie

Post by **Shonky** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:00 pm

Not sure on the dates yet Tassie, as for where we'll be, probably all ends since we'll be going for a week or thereabouts. Not sure on the plans once we get there, atm we're thinking of just winging it, staying in motels as we come across them. Still a fair bit of research to be done at this stage.

TassieDevil_Original · Sun May 27, 2007 8:11 pm

PM me if you need any info SHoNKY...

Post by **Shonky** » Sun May 27, 2007 8:34 pm

Cheers Tassie, we shouldn't have much trouble finding our way around, we went over about 8 years ago, this trip is to take the photos I never got the 1st time for me, as for the missus the only request I've had from her is to go to the cadbury factory again.

pixelboy · Post by **pixelboy** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:50 am

Did you get the Tokina Dave?

Hows it going ?

Post by **Shonky** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:35 pm

Not yet mate, one thing lead to another and the lens and trip to Tassie have been put on the backburner, moving house instead.

pixelboy · Post by **pixelboy** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:31 pm

Sounds like fun