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The Future of F1

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After watching one of the better races of the season tonight, what do you think of the future of F1.

They are always changing rules to try and make it more competitive, but once again it seems to have don’t little this season to make the racing any closer.

They seem to be hammering the developers to hold them back to stop the progress of motor racing.
F1 is the pinicial of racing, they should start letting teams develop what they want.

The current setup isn’t working, teams have all these restrictions and still manage to make the cars faster and harder to overtake.

I would love to see the new concord agreement state that teams can do whatever they want, make whatever car they like as long as height/length and width is restricted.
Bring f1 back to what it should be, the best cars in the world, racing on the best tracks.
Hell it cant be worse the F1 is atm.
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They should do whatever they're doing in GP2. That's fantastic at the moment.

They need to rely more on mechanical grip (tyres and underbody downforce) and less on wings. They keep making the wings smaller which means the cars can't get close in fast corners but equally they don't offset that with more grippy tyres.

Also I think the tracks have a lot to answer for. Why they can't build little extra bits to give them alternated corner layouts I don't know. Like the last turn at Barcelona. The cars now really struggle to get close so why not make an extra bit of track to make it a slow 1st gear corner instead and then we'd see passing into T1.

Some interesting stats. Total number of overtaking moves per race/season

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Grand Prix       2005  '04  '03  '02  '01  '00  '99  '98  '97  Total  Avg. 
==============================­==============================­============= 
 1. Australia      5    9   38   19   18   13   41    7    3    153  17.0 
 2. Malaysia       7   20   16   27   47   31   11   --   --    143  20.4 
 3. Bahrain       14   15   --   --   --   --   --   --   --     29  14.5 
 4. San Marino     7    6    4    6   13    7   11    8    5     67   7.4 
 5. Spain          3    7   19   10   10    4    4   12   36     86   9.6 
 6. Monaco        10    5    0    9    6    2    5    4   29     70   7.8 
 7. Europe/LUX    24   11    8   27    7   28   33    6   11    155  17.2 
 8. Canada        12   19    8   15   13   14   14   10   22    127  14.1 
 9. USA            0   16   36   21   21   51    -    -    -    145  29.0 
10. France         5   14   12    3    8   17   43   17    7    126  14.0 
11. Britain        8   11   49   47    7    8   13   44    7    194  21.6 
12. Germany        9   29   14   25   15   42   16   10   14    174  19.3 
13. Hungary       12    6   25    1    5   10    7   11   28    105  11.7 
14. Turkey         -   --   --   --   --   --   --   --   --      -   - 
15. Italy          -   38    5   20   19   18   14   28    4    146  18.2 
16. Belgium        -   22   --    5    8   16   15   11   51    129  18.4 
17. Brazil         -   41   48   30   26   22   27   13   32    238  29.8 
18. Japan          -   21   20    2   17    8    4   19    9     98  12.2 
19. China          -   17   --   --   --   --   --   --   --     17  17.0 
 -  Argentina     --   --   --   --   --   --   --   11   39     50  25.0 
 -  Austria       --   --   20   18   17   20   30   29   21    155  22.5 
------------------------------­------------------------------­------------- 
    Totals       116  307  320  285  257  311  288  240  318   2440  16.7 
    No. GP        13   18   16   17   17   17   16   16   16    146 
    Race Avg.      9   17   20   17   15   18   18   15   20     17 


Note: In 1997-98 the Luxembourg GP was held at the Nürburgring. 

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Is that stat for overtaking for the lead ? Or places in general. I would have thought there has been more overtaking this season because of all the people coming through the pack.

Also it stikes me that Modern day F1 drivers just dont let people pass. The simpliy crash into them (unless they are way slower or in the same team).
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nutty wrote:I would love to see the new concord agreement state that teams can do whatever they want, make whatever car they like as long as height/length and width is restricted.
I bet within two years we would only have 6 teams (Ferrari,McLaren,Toyota,BAR, Renault[maybe] and Sauber/BMW). Thats not much good for the sport is it. Costs have to be contained.

They just need some better technical regs and drivers that can withstand 5g's + all race
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Post by Sterling »

F1 is so boring now......I used to be a great fan, the cars now decide race positions not the drivers and is clearly shown with how Schumacher is struggling this year.

I remember the good ole days of great Senna/Prost battles, tracks with character(street curcuits like adelaide) and variation and theatre of it all.

Fast cars don't neccessarily make for exciting racing, call me weird but I dont call racing exciting when all the passing is done in the pits.

Slow them down, get rid of all that damn ugly aero and electronic assistance and find some drivers who at least have character and not just big egos.
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fourthof5 wrote:Is that stat for overtaking for the lead ? Or places in general. I would have thought there has been more overtaking this season because of all the people coming through the pack.

Also it stikes me that Modern day F1 drivers just dont let people pass. The simpliy crash into them (unless they are way slower or in the same team).
That's all passes, not including lap 1.
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