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Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:54 am
by norbs
Gents,

I have a birthday approaching, and my 16 year old A1 wheel needs a rest.

So, do I go the Logitech G27, Fanatec 911 GT2 or Fanatec 911 GT3

The GT3 Fanatec is $249 at the moment.

Will all these work with my A1 pedals?

Thanks gents.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:01 am
by Righteous
I'd say go the Fanatec if you don't plan on changing pedals. You'll get a higher quality wheel that way I would think.

Having said that, I've got a g25 and have never tried any fanatec stuff, so I'm no expert.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:20 am
by w00dsy
Can confirm, I've also never tried Fanatec wheels and am not an expert.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:50 am
by Quincy
I too can confirm. G25, no fanatec. :p

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:19 am
by DexterPunk
Yes. G27 here no Fanatec.

However!

I have Fanatec pedals which replaced my A1's and they are brilliant. I have heard the Fanatec wheels can have the odd issue. The pedals are the same, but easy to replace the load cell etc.


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Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:19 pm
by DarrenM
If your pedals plug directly into usb then they'll be fine.

I've tried both wheels, though I only had the GT3 for a couple days. I prefer the FFB of the Fanatec wheel. It's smoother, quieter, and seemed more detailed.

I prefer the ergonomics of the G27. The rim on the GT3 is pretty thick which is ok, but the hub spokes are also really wide and not well placed for me. That would probably just be a matter of getting used to and depends how you hold the wheel I guess.

I don't like the buttons on the G27 wheel but the ones on the GT3 aren't a whole lot better. No tactile feel when trying to find the one you want, but that would also be something you'd get used to.

The G27 pedals are pretty good, but the shifter isn't. Haven't tried the CSR pedals so I don't know how they compare.

G27 may be more reliable, but I don't know what the v2 is like in that regard. Ysu hasn't had a fun time with his Fanatec wheel.

I'm sponsored by them so I might be biased, but if I only wanted a wheel I think I'd get the GT3.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:32 pm
by DexterPunk
DarrenM wrote:The G27 pedals are pretty good, but the shifter isn't. Haven't tried the CSR pedals so I don't know how they compare
The Fanatec CSR's murder the G27 pedals. And I only have the v1.0 pedals.

Oh and I forgot to say, I've only ever owned the A1 pedals without the wheel. They work independently, they work with any wheel as far as I know. You just have the pedals plugged into that A1 controller box.

Do you still have the terminator plug, norbs??


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Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:32 pm
by DexterPunk
DarrenM wrote:The G27 pedals are pretty good, but the shifter isn't. Haven't tried the CSR pedals so I don't know how they compare
The Fanatec CSR's murder the G27 pedals. And I only have the v1.0 pedals.

Oh and I forgot to say, I've only ever owned the A1 pedals without the wheel. They work independently, they work with any wheel as far as I know. You just have the pedals plugged into that A1 controller box.

Do you still have the terminator plug, norbs??


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Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:50 pm
by Duke
Norbs has A1 pedals so really only wants to upgrade to a new FFB wheel.

I thought a DFGT could be an option but he seemed to think it might be too console / toy'ish.
From memory it has similar internal to a G25/27.
I think a few here use one (Pix?) & might like to comment on what they're like...

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:51 pm
by DarrenM
The pedals are bundled in that special though. GT3 v2 + CSR pedals for the same price as the wheel.

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Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:54 pm
by Duke
Oh yeah that's a great deal then.
I'd be putting that on my B'day list then if I was in the same situation. ;)

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:10 pm
by pixelboy
Yeah get the DFGT and spend the balance on Little Creatures IPA!

I'll come and help you drink it.

Seriously though.. It's done everything I've asked it too and it's under $100!

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:12 pm
by pixelboy
Then again I always come last so maybe you should get the better one... It's either the wheel is crap or the bloke holding it.. :D

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:18 am
by ysu
DFGT is adequate, it does everything. I've had a DFP for a long while. The pedal is rubbish. (and Greger have used a DFP, too, for a loooong time, beating everyone...)
G25/27 - never tried, but the pedals are a bit of a letdown as I heard. Cog mechanism noisy and less accurate. However, you can find these really-really cheap, often at g27 sales (under $200, even as low as $160)
A1 pedal - great but the pedal throw is not enough. The dual spring is fantastic.
Fanatec Gt3; great wheel, smooth, quiet, & accurate (belt driven). And pretty strong. The leather is exquisite. Few problems: table clamp is rubbish (I had to drill a hole in my desk to screw it on when I use it!) & the free pedals aren't really great either. While the pedal throw is better than the A1's, and you can change the angle of the pedals and the layout somewhat, it was spiking a month after I started to use it. It can be helped with a bit of deadzone. Oh, and pray you don't need to experience the fanatec "support". If you care about that at all, get a Logitech, they'll replace a faulty wheel without further ado.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:22 am
by w00dsy
I got my G27 yesterday and I really like the wheel. It feels good and the pedals are much better than what I was using. The shifter feels cheap and nasty though so I won't bother using that.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:29 am
by DexterPunk
Do you have another shifter?? Even though it's not the greatest, it's still far more fun driving with it than using flappy paddles. I also love the G27, It's actually a much better product than I was expecting.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:48 am
by DarrenM
It's a shame the G27 shifter doesn't have the sequential option like the G25. My main issue with it was that it kept getting stuck on the gate, but I never bothered opening it up to see if I could fix that.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:47 am
by Shaun
I've started having trouble with my g27 shifter. If it's in 2nd sometimes the game will recognise that then go to 4th even though I haven't touched it lol. Most times its fine and if I am racing seriously I use paddles anyway. Shifter is just for fun. G27 is a fantastic set up for the price. I tried a gt3 wheel the other day but it wasn't calibrated properly and I was using a rift for the first time so probably didn't help. If they are easy to set up it feels amazing in the hand

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:16 am
by DexterPunk
DarrenM wrote:It's a shame the G27 shifter doesn't have the sequential option like the G25. My main issue with it was that it kept getting stuck on the gate, but I never bothered opening it up to see if I could fix that.
Yeah I reckon it could be cut or grind down pretty easy. With a bit of practice though I find I don't miss gears as much anymore.

At some point I'll look at a better shifter, but it's doing an ok job for for now.


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Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:19 pm
by KNAPPO
I only use my G25 shifter in sequential mode and as a pit lane speed limiter lever.
There is something i love about attacking the pit lane and pulling on a tactile leaver instead of pushing a button.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:21 pm
by NeilPearson
I had mine as a handbrake in Richard burns rally. Was so cool

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Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:51 pm
by KNAPPO
LFS it was my handbreak for drifting.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:01 pm
by Duke
Yep I use my G25 in Seq for a HB at times. ;)

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:52 pm
by norbs
What are the clamps like on these?

I have a 50mm lip on the desk, so just wondering if that will be sufficient.

Re: Wheel advice. Logitech or Fanatec?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:00 pm
by DexterPunk
You mean the table top is 50mm thick? or you only have 50mm of clearance under the desk?